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    This has been circulating facebook but just incase anyone hasnt seen it yet, I thought I would post it here. Its crazy where they are trying to get away with. Hope this helps some people out.

    Quoted from following link. http://thebull.cbslocal.com/2014/08/...messenger-app/



    Facebook Crosses The Line With New Facebook Messenger App

    First, this is VERY important to read and understand. I’m doing my best to look out for all the Facebook Users who aren’t as tech savvy as their kids or friends. I’m trying to help explain what’s happening because if I don’t…nobody else will!

    If you’re anything like your neighbor…you probably use Facebook on your phone WAY more than you use it on a computer. You’ve been sending messages from the Facebook app and it probably always asks you if you want to install the Facebook Messenger App.
    It’s always been OPTIONAL but coming soon to your Facebook experience….it won’t be an option…it will be mandatory if you care to send messages from your phone.
    No big deal one might think…but the part that the average Facebook User doesn’t realize is the permissions you must give to Facebook in order to use the Facebook Messenger App. Here is a short list of the most disturbing permissions it requires and a quick explanation of what it means to you and your privacy.
    • Change the state of network connectivity – This means that Facebook can change or alter your connection to the Internet or cell service. You’re basically giving Facebook the ability to turn features on your phone on and off for it’s own reasons without telling you.
    • Call phone numbers and send SMS messages – This means that if Facebook wants to…it can send text messages to your contacts on your behalf. Do you see the trouble in this? Who is Facebook to be able to access and send messages on your phone? You’re basically giving a stranger your phone and telling them to do what they want when they want!
    • Record audio, and take pictures and videos, at any time – Read that line again….RECORD audio…TAKE pictures….AT ANY TIME!! That means that the folks at Facebook can see through your lens on your phone whenever they want..they can listen to what you’re saying via your microphone if they choose to!!
    • Read your phone’s call log, including info about incoming and outgoing calls – Who have you been calling? How long did you talk to them? Now Facebook will know all of this because you’ve downloaded the new Facebook messenger app.
    • Read your contact data, including who you call and email and how often – Another clear violation of your privacy. Now Facebook will be able to read e-mails you’ve sent and take information from them to use for their own gain. Whether it’s for “personalized advertisements” or if it’s for “research purposes” ….whatever the reason..they’re accessing your private encounters.
    • Read personal profile information stored on your device – This means that if you have addresses, personal info, pictures or anything else that’s near and dear to your personal life…they can read it.
    • Get a list of accounts known by the phone, or other apps you use – Facebook will now have a tally of all the apps you use, how often you use them and what information you keep or exchange on those apps.


    Hopefully, you take this as serious as I do…after reading more about it and studying the permissions I have now deleted the app from my phone and don’t intend to use it ever again. I still have my Facebook app but I just won’t use the messaging feature unless I’m at a computer. Even then, I might not use messaging anymore.
    With these kinds of privacy invasions I think Facebook is pushing the limits to what people will let them get away with. I remember when the Internet first began it’s march toward socializing dominance when AOL would send us CD’s for free trials every week. On AOL, we made screen names that somewhat hid our identities and protected us against the unseen dangers online. Now, it seems that we’ve forgotten about that desire to protect our identity and we just lay down and let them invade our privacy.
    There may be no turning back at this point because many people won’t read this or investigate the permissions of Facebook’s new mandatory app but at least I can say I tried to help us put up a fight. Pass this along to your friends and at least try to let them know what they’re getting into
    Last edited by CrazyCanadian; August 8, 2014, 04:42 PM.

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    hoh.. somethimes i'm happy that i dont own a facebook account :P
    The awkward moment when your sarcasm is so advanced
    People actually think you are stupid~

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sartan View Post
      hoh.. somethimes i'm happy that i dont own a facebook account :P
      this 4 me 2

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      • #4
        Sounds bad, think I will remove the app as well, thanks...
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        • #5
          App removed the second i read the news

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          • #6
            I hate Facebooks ever continued attempts to creep into its users lives.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NielsBohr View Post
              I hate Facebooks ever continued attempts to creep into its users lives.
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              Yes I just read something about FB saying that users will not be able to read their messages without the app soon!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheWickerMan View Post
                Yes I just read something about FB saying that users will not be able to read their messages without the app soon!
                I hope that only applies to those that use the mobile app and not the mobile browser site.

                I deleted the app and never went back because of all the bs it tried to take over on my phone. Been using the website ever since.

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                • #9
                  I uninstalled the app :)

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                  • #10
                    I won't install that messenger thing. There are enough alternatives out there. F*ck you Facebook.
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                    • #11
                      I'm just going to post the same thing I've been posting on everyone's post about this.

                      Oh my god this is starting to get old.


                      First of all, those permissions are required for half of the messenger app to work if you use those features and sadly Android doesn't have a way so you can pick and choose which permissions are accessed, if you want that kind of control get yourself a f'en iPhone. Second, if you're so concern about privacy on your android device then download a permission manager, there's many out there to choose from.


                      Here is some of the major permissions that everyone is so f'en worked up about and why it's needed and when it will come in play:


                      "Directly call phone numbers, read phone status and identity" - sadly this is a bundle deal by Google. This will ONLY come in play if you click the phone button that's on the upper right hand corner when you're chatting with someone to call that person.


                      "Edit your text messages (SMS or MMS), read your text messages (SMS or MMS), receive text messages (MMS), receive text messages (SMS), send SMS messages" - again, another package deal where it's all or nothing because of Google's awesomeness of making it a bundle deal. This comes in play for verifying your phone number (where Facebook will send you a text message and will automatically read the code so you don't have to manually type it in yourself), other then that it doesn't use it.


                      "take pictures and videos" - well shit, if you have no clue what this permission even means then you don't know anything about your device. This will only come in play when you're message a contact and decided to take a picture to send to them via the messenger app. When you click the attach button and you choose camera, it'll open the camera app, once you take a picture it'll automatically attach it to the message to send to your friend. It's one less step then opening the camera app separately and then attaching it. Think of it like this, if you ever done MMS through the text messenger app that comes standard on the phone, that messenger app has that same permission so when you go to attach a picture and it's a picture you're just going to take on the fly well there you go.


                      "read call log, read your contacts" - yet another all or nothing permission set by Google. Only thing that the messenger app will do is read your contacts list to find possible friends to suggest to message through the messenger app.


                      "read your own contact card" - self explanatory, for finding out what your number is so if your number is already associated with your fb account then all you need is to type in your password to save you the trouble of typing in your full email address of [email protected].


                      "modify or delete the contents of your USB storage, read the contents of your USB storage" - this is for adding their own messenger sound for the notification, nothing more, nothing less.


                      "find accounts on device, read Google service configuration" - remember further up when I told you how it reads your contacts to see rather or not you have friends with facebook as well? Well then, this is the same reason, also to see if you can link the facebook contacts with your real contacts that you have on your phone.


                      "change network connectivity, download files without notification, full network access, receive data from internet, view network connections, view Wi-Fi connections" - sadly yet another package deal by good old Google. This mainly comes into play when you're sending or getting a picture from someone over the google messenger. This of the same built-in text messenger app I talked about before because I can bet you'll have the same permission.


                      "run at startup" - self explanatory, allows itself to start up on bootup


                      "draw over other apps" - this is for their god awful chat heads feature that you an simply go in and turn off.


                      I think you probably gotten the point by now. If you have other questions of what other permissions might be involved then I'll be happy to answer but for crying out loud do your research.


                      tl;dr version: if you want control over the permissions get yourself an iPhone or install yourself an permission manager.

                      If you want me to clarify about anything I just said in there, let me know and I'll clarify it to make it easier for you to understand :)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by simonsoft View Post
                        I'm just going to post the same thing I've been posting on everyone's post about this.




                        If you want me to clarify about anything I just said in there, let me know and I'll clarify it to make it easier for you to understand :)
                        I don't want to disagree with you about the theoretical uses of those permissions, but what creeps me out is that a Facebook could TECHNICALLY use my camera without me knowing, and that they can TECHNICALLY call and text people without my direct action.
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                        • #13
                          Problem with that theory is that they would need to completely change the code instead of just porting it over from the iOS version of the app and most coders are lazy so I don't see that happening any time soon. Besides, I've already given you my solution if you have that much concern, download a permission manager and block those permissions from the app so the app can't use it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by simonsoft View Post
                            Problem with that theory is that they would need to completely change the code instead of just porting it over from the iOS version of the app and most coders are lazy so I don't see that happening any time soon. Besides, I've already given you my solution if you have that much concern, download a permission manager and block those permissions from the app so the app can't use it.
                            I guess those Permission Managers require root access? I tried but I didn't get that superuser thing to work on my phone so that's not an option for me.
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                            • #15
                              For me the problem is not the permissions or whatever. It's that I have to install another faking program on my phone that's not needed and will hog more resources that I could be using for important things like surfing porn.

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