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    I live in the US. The other day I saw a 2016 Election bumper sticker that says it all. The sticker simply says ..We are Screwed...
    Truth hurts and normally can be said is a few words. For the first time in my own history I am seriously concerned about who we will get as our new president. the choices are horrible either a big mouth lair woman groping man or a very untrustworthy sneaking woman like the sticker says ..We Are Screwed..
    I may move back to Panama!!
    End of election rant
    Thanks for listening

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    Originally posted by Panamajim View Post
    I live in the US. The other day I saw a 2016 Election bumper sticker that says it all. The sticker simply says ..We are Screwed...
    Truth hurts and normally can be said is a few words. For the first time in my own history I am seriously concerned about who we will get as our new president. the choices are horrible either a big mouth lair woman groping man or a very untrustworthy sneaking woman like the sticker says ..We Are Screwed..
    I may move back to Panama!!
    End of election rant
    Thanks for listening
    I hear you but it is well know by those who follow politics that the whole system is rigged and always has been (how else could all our presidents be related "through their mothers side" Also corporations have presidents not country's ("The United States Of America" is a corporation in definition. So is every person in this country (or in any country in the UN) issued by Birth Certificate also know as a "Strawman". the paper version of you is what they can control and tax, Sue, or jail. The one's who decide things that matter do not get "elected"

    So really it doesn't matter who's running, it's just a show for the Sheepeople. The real thing to worry about is how long will it take us to change out those who are corrupt for those who are honestly trying to be leaders and better the world not just our Country.

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    • #3
      Well theirs that too!
      Basically we are pee-destined to have a F..k up world until we are not..

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      • #4
        Good luck to america, can't believe they chose Trump.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by TheDarkKnightR View Post
          Good luck to america, can't believe they chose Trump.
          Well I can the folks here are so sick of the same old stuff they want change really any kind of change which I am now sure they will get!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Panamajim View Post
            Well I can the folks here are so sick of the same old stuff they want change really any kind of change which I am now sure they will get!!
            They chose a guy without any experience and sad many many bad things about women, the country, the people, made fun of disabled.
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            • #7
              The brain stew section is for in depth constructive conversations only. It is not a place for jokes or spam that is why it is limited to 55% users and above. Please if you do not have anything insightful to add to this conversation say nothing.
              only the shadow knows the evil in the hearts of men

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              • #8
                Agreed but you have to also agree if you live in the US the matter of Trump being our leader can be quite insightful. I can think of little less than is as importance
                Seriously I was not trying to spam or make jokes but to have some sort of in dept dialogue on how we are screwed..sorry if anyone takes what I said in a way not intended.
                Last edited by Panamajim; November 11, 2016, 08:33 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Panamajim View Post
                  Agreed but you have to also agree if you live in the US the matter of Trump being our leader can be quite insightful. I can think of little less than is as importance
                  Seriously I was not trying to spam or make jokes but to have some sort of in dept dialogue on how we are screwed..sorry if anyone takes what I said in a way not intended.
                  the comment was not directed at you I had to remove some posts from thread
                  only the shadow knows the evil in the hearts of men

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                  • #10
                    Ok got ya thanks for the explanation.I know it's a can of worms hoping we could have some constructive worms :)

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                    • #11
                      Trump has been utilizing Nixon's Madman Theory to defeat his political rivals, succumb the GOP, and to win the presidency.

                      He keeps using extreme tactics to keep people guessing and it means that he calculates what he says. He says what needs to say to win and then he flip flops.


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                      • #12
                        I just want to make a quick point - this country of America has had a long and interesting lineage of Presidents - some good, some bad. One of the most famous, George Washington, had no political aspirations or experience and was elected to the Presidency because of his service and standing. Lincoln suffered from depression and a very up and down political career. Ulysses S Grant was a known alcoholic who flooded the cabinet with his cronies and was a terrible President. Kennedy arose from a family of corrupt bootleggers turned career politicians, Jimmy Carter was a brilliant humanitarian but terrible leader, and so on and so on. In fact, we're batting around .300 as far as Presidents go (probably too kind). My point being is that political experience and background do not always make or break a presidency. Look at Obama - he might have been a good president if only they had given him time to mature and "ripen" in the legislature.

                        Will Trump be good for America? Time will tell. But any American who wishes failure on him is cutting off their nose to spite their face. He's the main in the Oval Office now and we need to get behind him.. not as Trump, but as the President of the United States. That doesn't mean supporting his policies out of hand, but it does mean we (as a country) need to stop running around like Chicken Little and focus on the tasks at hand. And even if you DO believe the sky is falling, don't just run around yelling and complaining about it - figure out a way to fix it, or at least protect your fellow man from the falling pieces. America has some serious problems and no one has proof positive of the answers (certainly not the last administration). I for one hope that Trump surprises everyone with an enlightened and effective presidency.

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                        • #13
                          "Not as Trump but as president" - are you saying everyone should bow down just because of the title he now holds and that YOU the American public that put him in office should just blindly trust and agree with him because he is president? Think you need to get your head out of the sand - Trump has already demonstrated his poor leadership - don't need to wait for even more to come to know he is a poor choice ! just check his twitter feeds- nuff said here :)
                          I'm not an American but to be somewhat controversial - for as long as I can remember no one has liked Americans and now I think that the tide has turned - Americans are figuring out that internally they don't like Americans either

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GOLDIE View Post
                            "Not as Trump but as president" - are you saying everyone should bow down just because of the title he now holds and that YOU the American public that put him in office should just blindly trust and agree with him because he is president? Think you need to get your head out of the sand - Trump has already demonstrated his poor leadership - don't need to wait for even more to come to know he is a poor choice ! just check his twitter feeds- nuff said here :)
                            I'm not an American but to be somewhat controversial - for as long as I can remember no one has liked Americans and now I think that the tide has turned - Americans are figuring out that internally they don't like Americans either
                            Hi Goldie,
                            I'm not sure you gathered my meaning fully (or read through to the end of my post) - immediately after my statement of "not as Trump but as President" I go on to say specifically that we should not bow down or follow blindly and such that you wrote. People should never follow any leader blindly. A big part of the foul up of the last 8 years here was precisely due to Americans burying their head in the sand; they had elected Obama and he was just not allowed to fail. I've had many discussions with Obama supporters and it often boils down to their HOPE in his presidency outweighing the facts of his presidency. People wanted him to succeed so badly that many were not able to take an objective view of the circumstances. Speaking as someone who has voted for Presidents from BOTH sides of the aisle (that's both parties to non-Americans) I like to think that my view is more objective than most - at least more objective than the ones screaming the loudest.

                            As for your no one has liked Americans comment - I have to admit we've done a good job of annoying the rest of the world for many reasons which I won't go into now. However, this was not always the case. There was a time when America was revered as a bastion of hope and democracy and justice. A place of second chances. America's foreign policy is certainly to blame and you can probably start to chart the slide of America's popularity around the 1950s/1960s.

                            We're a young country and bound to make mistakes - in many ways we are like teenagers on the geopolitical scene - teenagers who are a bit spoiled unfortunately. But we've done good.. lots of good.. for a lot of people. We were the destination of choice for the Irish during their terrible famine. The Jews during the Nazi's reign. And pretty much every other nationality at one time or another. During the 80s Japanese culture went through a turmoil of Western (read American) fandom. I could go on and on. My own lineage traces back to Italians who were escaping fascism and Yugoslavians escaping Communism. America is an awesome country but we need to fix the way we do business. Maybe the new President will lead us in that direction. Maybe not. But we certainly weren't headed there under the last President so I'm hopeful.

                            Cheers,
                            MBR

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