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    Hi all,

    My Dell Vostro 1500 is dying. Its over 6 years old and I think its about time I change. The question is what do I get?

    My first problem is do I get a laptop or a computer? The thing is i don't really take it out the house with me that often, but it is convenient having something that can move from room to room. However, my girlfriend is a graphics designer so has a macbook pro and I can always borrow that for general surfing the web.

    Secondly, I used to be a gamer but don't really play too many games anymore, maybe cos my laptop can't handle it, or maybe cos I prefer getting games for my ps3. I do however use it alot and would say a multimedia system is key. Definitely will be hooking it up to the tv to watch downloaded films/series etc and I watch a lot of youtube.

    So, I am open to any suggestions but I don't want to spend more than 1000GBP! I've been looking at the Alienware X51 but think I can get something better for the same price as you're paying a premium for the brand!

    Look forward to hearing your responses.

  • #2
    i personally think that the alienware machines are over priced. if you wanted to get another laptop i would never suggest anything other than a leovo thinkpad:

    http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops...-series/t430s/


    as for a tower i would say build you own as i've never bought a pre built machine.


    but that's just my opinion, others will say different. let us know what you pic in the end and good luck

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    • #3
      It's hard to say, if you find yourself enjoying gaming more on your PS3 or perhaps on one of the upcoming next gen consoles then you may be better off with a laptop, if you think there is a chance you might begin gaming again with an upgraded PC then you may want to think about building a PC.

      What matters most to you? Storage space, speed, upgradibility? One option you may want to look at if you're going for a multimedia system is getting a PC under your budget and then connecting purchasing a roku or similar device to connect to your T.V.

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      • #4
        According to the stuff you wrote us here I would tell you to avoid a new laptop and go make yourself a custom made tower ;)
        :evil: HELLenic = Greek which came out of HELL :evil:

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        • #5
          I agree with some above: built your own system.

          It's cheaper...
          It has way more options to satisfy your needs...
          It won't let you down on overheating issues...
          It could come with a 27" so you can watch midget-porn almost full-size...
          It's not moveable, correct, but a laptop needs to be hooked up too after an hour of intense use, so why bother...?

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          • #6
            This is my own personal preference.

            I would buy a really decent laptop with hdmi port & and 23 inch monitor.

            Connect your laptop to your 23 inch monitor via hdmi and use it like a regular computer. You can even enjoy gaming once awhile.
            When you want to watch movies or tv shows connect your laptop to your tv via hdmi.

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            • #7
              Cos i've been out of the hardware loop for a long time i'm not sure what I would get if i was to build myself...

              DO i need a Intel Quad-Core i7 or will and i5 be suitable for waht I need? 4Gb ram or 8gb? DO i need a graphics card, if so which one? I've been having a look at the chillblast Fusion Yeti and chillblast Fusion Mammoth as well as the pcspecialist media systems (PCSPECIALIST - Intel Htpc PC, Intel Htpc Computers, Build Your Own Intel Htpc PC) and they all look pretty sweet.

              My girlfriend and I are buying our own place soon so I am leaning towards a pc over a laptop and will utilise it as a home theatre system. I'll use it to stream football at the weekends and instead of having a tv license with a freeview box I was thinking we will be fine with bbc iplayer, 4od, 5 player, itv player plus everything i download. I think coupled with a smart tv it will be pretty sweet and then if i do want to play any games on it I can as well... I don't think I'm going to bother with a monitor, i want a computer that can connect to a hdtv and that will probably be my primary monitor. I've got some sweet ass KRK5's and an external soundcard so i think in terms of sound it will be sweet. Just need to find the right system! I would be happy to build something myself but again i'm not sure what components i'd get PLUS i'd prefer a mini tower as opposed to a huge tower....

              Any recommendations for motherboards/gfx cards/wifi cards/cases/psus etc all welcome!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by atticus88 View Post
                Cos i've been out of the hardware loop for a long time i'm not sure what I would get if i was to build myself...

                DO i need a Intel Quad-Core i7 or will and i5 be suitable for waht I need? 4Gb ram or 8gb? DO i need a graphics card, if so which one? I've been having a look at the chillblast Fusion Yeti and chillblast Fusion Mammoth as well as the pcspecialist media systems (PCSPECIALIST - Intel Htpc PC, Intel Htpc Computers, Build Your Own Intel Htpc PC) and they all look pretty sweet.

                My girlfriend and I are buying our own place soon so I am leaning towards a pc over a laptop and will utilise it as a home theatre system. I'll use it to stream football at the weekends and instead of having a tv license with a freeview box I was thinking we will be fine with bbc iplayer, 4od, 5 player, itv player plus everything i download. I think coupled with a smart tv it will be pretty sweet and then if i do want to play any games on it I can as well... I don't think I'm going to bother with a monitor, i want a computer that can connect to a hdtv and that will probably be my primary monitor. I've got some sweet ass KRK5's and an external soundcard so i think in terms of sound it will be sweet. Just need to find the right system! I would be happy to build something myself but again i'm not sure what components i'd get PLUS i'd prefer a mini tower as opposed to a huge tower....

                Any recommendations for motherboards/gfx cards/wifi cards/cases/psus etc all welcome!
                If I find some spare time I will help you out (atm got tons of work to finish) but I will recommend you at least 16GB RAM (not 4GB or 8GB) and I believe an i5 would fit you great (unless you want to go to hardcore gaming) and will save you some money :)
                :evil: HELLenic = Greek which came out of HELL :evil:

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                • #9
                  In my opinion:

                  - an i5 or i7 proc from the last generation, i7 4770K or the i54670K will suit and the i5 is a bit cheaper but still top (k versions are better anyways)
                  - the MSI Z87-G45 gaming motherboard, suits even non-gamers (military class components)
                  - 8GB will be enough, unless you're going to use autocad or something, I would go for 1600mhz with a cl9
                  - use an ssd for your OS, it really is fast, a 128GB will be enough and are cheap nowadays, look at the Samsung 840 EVO 120GB for example
                  - use a 2nd 7200rpm harddisk for your downloads, pictures, music, whatever, they come in all sizes
                  - graphic card (if you want to play): look for something with 2GB of GDDR5 ram, they manage today's games without trouble
                  - put in a power supply which gives you around 650W (and don't take the cheapest one, look for one with cable managment)
                  - put those things in a big enough case and add some quality coolers
                  - you now have a system for around 850-900€ which will do anything you want


                  Sure, for the money you have laptops too, but not with this setup.
                  Sure, for the money you can buy a prebuild one, with more ram, or more HD space, but it's all in the used components (they make ALOT of difference)

                  Last: buy a 24" screen too mate, they are better for playing than a TV...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HELLenic View Post
                    If I find some spare time I will help you out (atm got tons of work to finish) but I will recommend you at least 16GB RAM (not 4GB or 8GB) and I believe an i5 would fit you great (unless you want to go to hardcore gaming) and will save you some money :)
                    Originally posted by kawa_z750 View Post
                    In my opinion:

                    - an i5 or i7 proc from the last generation, i7 4770K or the i54670K will suit and the i5 is a bit cheaper but still top (k versions are better anyways)
                    - the MSI Z87-G45 gaming motherboard, suits even non-gamers (military class components)
                    - 8GB will be enough, unless you're going to use autocad or something, I would go for 1600mhz with a cl9
                    - use an ssd for your OS, it really is fast, a 128GB will be enough and are cheap nowadays, look at the Samsung 840 EVO 120GB for example
                    - use a 2nd 7200rpm harddisk for your downloads, pictures, music, whatever, they come in all sizes
                    - graphic card (if you want to play): look for something with 2GB of GDDR5 ram, they manage today's games without trouble
                    - put in a power supply which gives you around 650W (and don't take the cheapest one, look for one with cable managment)
                    - put those things in a big enough case and add some quality coolers
                    - you now have a system for around 850-900€ which will do anything you want


                    Sure, for the money you have laptops too, but not with this setup.
                    Sure, for the money you can buy a prebuild one, with more ram, or more HD space, but it's all in the used components (they make ALOT of difference)

                    Last: buy a 24" screen too mate, they are better for playing than a TV...
                    Thanks guys I appreciate your help. Im going to make a start at looking at stuff and willl let you know what im thinking before I start making the purchase! Any particular websites worht looking at?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by atticus88 View Post
                      Thanks guys I appreciate your help. Im going to make a start at looking at stuff and willl let you know what im thinking before I start making the purchase! Any particular websites worht looking at?
                      Make sure you get straight first what you expect from your soon-to-be pc.
                      Then take the time for some reviews on components, toms-hardware has quite some including charts and best-buy-for-the-buck comparisons.
                      Hardware.info is also nice, much reviews and buy guides.

                      Take some time for it, you will have to work with your pc for some years...

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                      • #12
                        Okay well the problem is I had set aside about 300-350 for a tv. I was hoping that I wouldn't have to buy a monitor... So it really has to be one or the other! I've seen a couple of the Dell Ultrasharp 27" monitors which are in that price range... but would I be able to connect my ps3 to it?

                        Now i have decided on these for sure:

                        Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 (112)
                        Processor: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail (185)
                        SDD: 120GB Samsung Evo (87)
                        HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD10EZRX) **SINGLE PLATTER** HDD (50)
                        Memory: Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (60)


                        I can't make up my mind on these:


                        GFX: MSI GEFORCE GTC 660 Gaming Edition (150) - Do I need a gfx card this powerful?


                        Case: Cooler Master CM Storm Scout 2 Black Gamers Case Midi Tower - SGC-2100-KWN1 (80) - I really wanted a mini ITX but cos of the mobo i need a case... Something a bit less... Towery though would be good


                        PSU: Corsair 2013 Edition Gamer Series GS 700W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020064-UK) (80) - More expensive then i thought!

                        All of this adds up to 806, doesn't include any additional cooling systems or an OS. Which is within my price range i think!

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                        • #13
                          Do you need a graphics card that powerful?
                          You need to ask yourself this question: if you're only using your PS3 then no, buy a cheaper one. If you want an occasional recent game on your pc then yes I'm afraid...

                          You could buy a mini-atx form mb with a small case, but the thing needs cooling. If you're only using it for downloading, browsing, etc that's no problem but again if you also want to game...
                          Same goes for the tv, it's good for browsing but not for gaming (or at least not in high res above 1920x1080).

                          I must say pc stuff looks expensive there, or cheap here...

                          I'll have a look on case and PSU for you tomorrow, see if I find some cheaper alternatives.


                          And for savings on an OS: I always buy at IPT ;-)
                          Last edited by kawa_z750; November 11, 2013, 02:43 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Kawa, thanks for all your help man its much appreciated! Such big decisions its really difficult!

                            ---------- Post added at 10:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:59 PM ----------

                            http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/20Skk
                            Last edited by atticus88; November 11, 2013, 05:13 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by atticus88 View Post
                              Kawa, thanks for all your help man its much appreciated! Such big decisions its really difficult!

                              ---------- Post added at 10:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:59 PM ----------

                              http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/20Skk
                              This is an equal alternative (693): Intel Core i5-4670K, Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition, Cooler Master K280 - System Build - PCPartPicker United Kingdom

                              This is a cheaper one (623): Intel Core i5-3570K, Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition, Cooler Master RC-361-KKN1 (Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker United Kingdom

                              The cheaper one saves on:

                              - a third generation cpu instead of 4th, will make no difference unless you use heavy programs like autocad
                              - a 64GB ssd instead of 120GB, think of what you will put on it (for me it's win7 and a few progs, and max 1 or 2 games, using a total of 35GB), if you like multiple bigger games go for the 120GB
                              - the case
                              - a 500W psu instead of 650W, it will be sufficient for this build but on the edge if you plan to extend (2nd graphics card, more hdd's)



                              These are just thoughts, the possible mixes are unlimited.
                              If you want I can make a build maxing your 1000,- budget too, then you'll have a masterpiece!
                              And no thanks, I like browsing this stuff ...


                              Ah well... http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/21khI
                              A little bit above, but let a bunch of naked midget assemble it and you will orgasm like never before!!!
                              Last edited by kawa_z750; November 12, 2013, 03:48 PM.

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