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Log Country IPs
After reading this thread it got me thinking that maybe when someone logs into the site their country IP should be logged to help members identify if they are from a banned country on a tracker. The guy on that thread almost got banned from revTT for inviting someone from a banned country and reading his intro was the only thing that saved him. I don't know how something like this would work tho. Just food for thought.
That would be a good idea, and shouldn't really be too hard to implement either. Would also save people inviting from grief from a tracker
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IP's addresses are quite sensitive things, they can be used in all manner of ways including hacking peoples accounts. For that reason, IP addresses are not made public on the forum. As has been stated before, thorough checks should be done before giving anyone an invite, this includes checking the intro and any previous GA's that have been applied for.
If it is deemed necessary the staff can check a person's IP, but only in extenuating circumstances - meaning all other avenues must have been explored first.
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It is completely pointless because you can see a country from a speed test, and to cheat speedtest.net is nearly impossible. It is possible only if you are using dedicated servers. And from the names of ISPs you can see, if it is a server provider. To see IP for avarage user is pointless, speed test is of better asisstance. And IPs are logged anyways, only some staff members can see them. It is pointless.
Update1: What I meant to say. To fake an IP is easy, to fake a speedtest is not easy.
Update2: But this might be usefull for intro workers. If they notice the difference, they could request an IP check to examine further. But that will slow down intros considerably because workers will have to google a lot.
I am of the opinion that this is the inviter's responsibility to ascertain via research what country any potential invitee is from just have a speedtest ran from within 50 miles to a server from the members home connection and you should be alright as you can determine origin from the speedtest
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@TankGirl
I didn't mean to expose the user IP address, more like a log showing the different countries the user has loged in from.
@silentninja
If you read the thread I linked on my original post you will see that the guy in fact was faking his speed tests.
@shadowbuild
I agree that its the inviters resposability, but if T-I can give the inviter a tool to help him make a better judgement whether the person is suitable for the invite or not it will make inviters feel a little less hesitant in giving out those invites and in turn it will help those who need the invites.
Again if this isn't something too hard to implement I think it would be a good addition.
Last edited by WLF11; February 22nd, 2011 at 01:22 PM.
Not sure that having a log showing all the countries a person has logging in from would help either tbh. All you would see is the exact same info speed test gives you, besides if a person decides to use a proxy, you would be back at square one.
Unfortunately there is no completely safe way to deal with invites, people will always find a way around any system you put in place. The best way is if anyone has a serious doubts about a persons location or their proof or anything else for that matter, then don't give them the invite - simple as :/
Generally speaking though, if people do thorough checks on the invitee they are ok. If a person does try to scam an invite they usually leave a trail of inconsistencies which can be followed.
Last edited by TankGirl; February 22nd, 2011 at 01:52 PM.
Tipping the Spear of Victory before an Army of Darkness,
she deals swift justice to whoever dare oppose her.
Possessing hidden power of untold measure,
she watches all who scurry beneath her gaze.
One may try to imitate her, but none will succeed,
for inclined to both limitless kindness and vengeance, She is at once,
our Nemesis, "First and Last", and our Destruction.
She is ... The Esteemed Exalted Mistress.
I remember Vegas mentioning something along the lines of your suggestion. He wanted to have some means to display the members' IPs; but rather than the specific IP, the countries will be displayed under our avatar or within our profiles. Whenever a user logs into the site with so and so IP address, the mod would simply display the country the IP is from. I'm not sure if this is priority or even going to be implemented, but I just wanted to state there was mention of it awhile ago.
Has anyone considered the implications of IPV6, and what it could mean for country identification? Sure, lots of American ISPs are using 6to4 tunneling, but there will still be tons of users out there with IPv6 addresses, and IPv4s, over time, are going to become a less and less reliable means of determining anything for residential connections.
Last edited by OcarinaKid; February 22nd, 2011 at 04:53 PM. Reason: tons, not dones
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Again, I think you are thinking about logging the country for the current session only and not ALL past sessions.Originally Posted by TankGirl
Let's say Im from China and find T-I on google and register for a new account. That will be logged with a China flag with today's date. A few days latter I see a giveaway for a tracker I would like to have but China is blocked, so I use a proxy in the USA to fake my IP, that also gets logged with a USA flag. So now I got 2 countries logged China and USA. Easy enough to be spotted now.
Yes that is not fool proof if the user always logs in using a proxy since registration but not all scammers are that smart, plus if they make a mistake and forget to enable my proxy once they get busted since it will be loged.
Last edited by WLF11; February 22nd, 2011 at 05:18 PM.
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