Thread: Listing/table of bad invite policies per tracker

Let me start by saying I hope this hasn't been suggested yet but I couldn't find it at least.

Basically what I'm suggesting is making a sticky in the give away forums where potential inviters can see what the consequences are of inviting a bad apple to a certain tracker. Being overly paranoid myself it would probably really help me (and others like me) to invite people (once I get my invites, shouldn't be to long now :D) to those trackers where the worst penalty is to lose invites or less (what's the use of not giving invites cause you're afraid to lose them after all) and it will give people a good idea of when they need to tighten up the conditions of a give away because they risk losing more then just their invites. Right now all I have to go by in many cases is the level of a tracker and some vague rules/faq posts on the site (if there's even that much) and I think it would be quite helpful if the more experienced members of this site could help us newbies out in that regard.

If anything is unclear I blame it on the fact it's 7:37 am and I'm still awake so I might need to edit some things later on based on comments



Anyway I hope that people think this can work and is worth it, I certainly do.

Ramira

It will be a great idea and I believe that it will be helpful to its intended targets, newbies. Well most of us already know the consequences of doing something wrong (dupe accounts, ratio cheating, banned IP/countries, etc.) in a tracker and generally it always ends with a ban and most likely that the members in the invite tree will get banned as well. That's the most common result.

I've already experienced getting banned in a tracker because my inviter brought someone else to the tracker which is from a banned country. So, both him and the guy he invited got banned, and eventually me as well since I'm a member of the guy's invite tree.

Usually, people that are relatively new to the private tracker world are the ones most likely to experience mistakes when inviting and getting invited. Not only do the giver risks his invites but his account as well but the receiver won't even get the chance to enjoy his/her new tracker. But that's just it most of the time. But if there are other penalties or policies that need to be mentioned then your suggestion will be a feasible one and will be totally helpful.

Basically what I'm pointing to is that the only thing people need to know when giving/receiving invites is that they are risking it and their accounts as well, and that if there's more to it than just that then the sticky thread will be a good idea.

Brilliant idea nonetheless.

This is a really good idea.

The only problem I can see is that some trackers aren't really systematic in the way they deal out punishments. Often it will depend on the particular mod or staff member and how nice or tough they are feeling.

In building such a listing or table I think it'd be important to distinguish between penalties which are dealt out systematically as part of the tracker's policy and those that have been dealt out on one particular occasion to a member by a mod.

Well though the idea looks good but I wonder how many tracker has it as a written rule most of them just say don't invite a cheacter or else you can get a warning and at the max a ban is possible....so in practical I wonder how much feasible it is...though if it is feasible then it's the best idea...

and also we cannot ask for users experence like diff. members have diff. some get there accoutn back some won't like what happened on the waffle accoutns sometime back....So there is no standard fo rthis...

other thing is don't you think it's better ot check you invitee thorolly before inviting him....if some tracker have a rule of not doing anything even if you invite a trader then are you going to give invite to that tracker waasyly to any member???? without even bothering....it's not question of your security it's also question of trackers security..so in my opinion check you invitee in the best way you can and you won't face this issue normally and one more thing it's mostly the inviter who gets ban and cause whole his invite tree to get a ban hammer so even if you know you cannot do much about your inviter right...

so get invite from people you trust most and give invite to users after you check him fully...

Originally Posted by forbidden

Well though the idea looks good but I wonder how many tracker has it as a written rule most of them just say don't invite a cheacter or else you can get a warning and at the max a ban is possible....so in practical I wonder how much feasible it is...though if it is feasible then it's the best idea...

and also we cannot ask for users experence like diff. members have diff. some get there accoutn back some won't like what happened on the waffle accoutns sometime back....So there is no standard fo rthis...

I think this is exactly the reason why making an overview is so important. If there were clear official rules per tracker it would be very easy for individual users to find out what a trackers policy is, but because it's often open to interpretation the best we can do is get an overview of the experiences that people have. While it won't be perfect I think it can give people at least a rough idea, for example I know some trackers pretty much will ban an entire invite tree if someone from a banned country is invited while others simply won't allow these people to get invites just like some trackers will ban an invite tree if a cheater/trader gets invited while others will either remove invite rights or just give a warning. While a listing would be far from perfect and people should still use their own judgement I think it would be a good start.

Originally Posted by forbidden

other thing is don't you think it's better ot check you invitee thorolly before inviting him....if some tracker have a rule of not doing anything even if you invite a trader then are you going to give invite to that tracker waasyly to any member???? without even bothering....it's not question of your security it's also question of trackers security..so in my opinion check you invitee in the best way you can and you won't face this issue normally and one more thing it's mostly the inviter who gets ban and cause whole his invite tree to get a ban hammer so even if you know you cannot do much about your inviter right...

so get invite from people you trust most and give invite to users after you check him fully...

The issue with this is if only people that are very trusted get invites the whole system of this site goes to hell, when I came here I had 3 low level private trackers (including demonoid) which really didn't get me anything it was through generous members giving me invites even though I had little to go on I was able to show I could keep my ratio on higher level trackers. This is why I think it's important that members know which invites can be given out to people that are just starting out before they got to prove themselves.

I realise that we have a tracker ranking (low/medium/trusted) already but there are many factors going into that listing some of which I don't really care about (like how hard it's to get in) and some that do matter (for me some "lower" trackers I couldn't do without tbfh) aren't taken into account. So for me at least, and I think for others too a nice listing would be quite useful.

Ramira