Thread: More trusted giveaway

Well now it's kind of odd and also totally I can see many Noooo's coming but I wanted to see it from the first day when I joined after the change in the name to Area51 this is something I wanted as second..

now we have a trusted giveaway section with a req. 100posts 2 rep's and 30days...Well I don't think it is kind of too much trusted...As I have seen many member who are getting banned and was able to get invite in trusted zone..then how come it is trusted...

it's really easy req. take my example ..I have made my intro on 01-26-2010, and was repped in on 02-18 means after repping in I only needed 12 days to see the trusted section and for 20rep's arrrrrr it's really easy just 1-2 rep from some nice user...So Within 12days of my joining I was able to look into trusted zone....

So here goes my suggestion:

Well we can make trusted giveaway or a new subforum for a higher class or we can increase the req. of 75% to 200Rep's and only allow them to access in trusted zone...Now i am not saying it cause I have passed it but It's cause even a noob here can enter in a trusted zone....


This way we will have a exclusive upperclass forum where we can give invites like FTN and all without worring much about the user.



Now some of you may say that we already have 2 secret sections VIP's only & The Exalted
but I cannot say how many of us can actually make it upto exalted and become MOTM...some user like me who love to have a low profile but still get random rep's for some funny comments and -ve rep for harsh comments has no chance in getting to those places.....

Well anyway this suggestion will have one more +ve point:
I have seen that only rep req. for reaching 99% is 20rep and I don't think a user should be judged on spam he can post like if someone is not having 150-200 rep's by the time he is posting 500post in my opinion he is not adding anything to the community cause I don't think getting these thing is that tough....


Well just my 2 cents and my 5th suggestion in TI...he he he 3 Ok 1 rejected...1 on the fire now...ha ha j/k



PS. I wonder if it's tooooo big to bore you in half...LoL

If the requirements are bumped up, especially to where posts counts are concerned, expect more spam.

The main area of activity I dare say is in the Mid levels section, those who are able to enter the trusted section, you can see the activity there. If requirements are higher, you can have 100 epic GAs, but nobody to apply it.

Also, it doesn't matter where the invites are held, whether low or mid or trusted, as long as you are the inviter, your invites, your rules, you always check your applicants whether they are trusted or not. Futhermore, you always have the choice to set rules for your giveaways, so...yea.

Originally Posted by forza

If the requirements are bumped up, especially to where posts counts are concerned, expect more spam.

The main area of activity I dare say is in the Mid levels section, those who are able to enter the trusted section, you can see the activity there. If requirements are higher, you can have 100 epic GAs, but nobody to apply it.

Well m8 that's why I'm saying to have rep. increased and keep the post count same...if you increase rep. I don't think it will encourage spam..As current system don't care about rep. much(20rep's huh) that's why people spam for getting to higher rank...and it is obviously that way...

Originally Posted by forza

Also, it doesn't matter where the invites are held, whether low or mid or trusted, as long as you are the inviter, your invites, your rules, you always check your applicants whether they are trusted or not. Futhermore, you always have the choice to set rules for your giveaways, so...yea.

Well if I consider you this statement then there is actually no need of having a trusted section..

The difference in levels I believe were set to differentiate the invites to be put in. For example, common trackers:demonoid, iptorrernts, UG, in the low levels.

Trusted we have SCC, waffles, gft? etc.

But you see the trend is changing, more people are having waffles, SCC and etc in the mid levels, as there is not much activity in the trusted section as compared to the mid levels.

oh here a ex from me:
Well m8 but if I want to make some giveaway in private without keeping much rules and for awesome people who have worked hard,,where do you think i should do it..Well for someone who is at 100%,99%(obviously with some 3-4 rep) i don't think I need to ask much ratio proof or simply put him in any headache of doing that..as he has done too much for TI..I cannot see a place to put it...it is odd to write only for 99% and put it where everyone have access It's like I'm tring to tease them


Guess It would have made more sense if I would have made a suggestion f incresing req. of 55% to 200rep's...LoL It's more or less same thing as this...

Originally Posted by forza

The difference in levels I believe were set to differentiate the invites to be put in. For example, common trackers:demonoid, iptorrernts, UG, in the low levels.

Trusted we have SCC, waffles, gft? etc.

But you see the trend is changing, more people are having waffles, SCC and etc in the mid levels, as there is not much activity in the trusted section as compared to the mid levels.

The main reason why we see waffle going down in low giveaway is cause you can get someone who apply and so the other guy who have made the thread in trusted won't get anyone so he will make his thread in low..so overall I can see it all shifting from trusted to low...

Originally Posted by forza

The difference in levels I believe were set to differentiate the invites to be put in. For example, common trackers:demonoid, iptorrernts, UG, in the low levels.

Trusted we have SCC, waffles, gft? etc.

But you see the trend is changing, more people are having waffles, SCC and etc in the mid levels, as there is not much activity in the trusted section as compared to the mid levels.

Forza, first off, thanks for taking a chance and repping me in!

To Forza's point, I see plenty of "premier" invites going in the midlevel section, and I wonder if that is because inviters do not see much of a hurdle between the requirements for a mid-level participant versus a trusted participant. 20 rep is rather low-hanging fruit. A few tutorials cribbed and credited from somewhere else, helpful answers in the help section and such and 20 rep is not so hard to attain just from thanked posts. This is especially so if you are gifted at IRC: I went into the channel a few times and folks were hitting each other with virtual fish, which I assumed was an inside joke that confused me. But I digress.

Perhaps if the requirement was bumped up a bit, inviters might see more security in going for trusted invites over midlevel offers. Of course, as a non-trusted person myself, I may be way off base here :001_smile:. I get that there has to be a balance and we don't want to drive folks off with absurd requirements, but surely there is a happy middle ground?

Of course, inviters should be free to give their invites as they see fit in accordance with site rules, so I have no problem if someone wants to put together a generous midlevel (or hell, low level) offer with premier trackers. It is their account after all. I just wonder if a few tweaks could help put more teeth into the trusted invite category, giving inviters more incentive to offer in that section, thus increasing its desirability.

I don't know about giving inviters incentives just to place their invitations where they should belong in the first place. I see what you're saying about supposedly higher-level trackers dropping lower and lower within the invite section, but again, that's up to the inviters to decide where to post their give-aways.

I, for one, only post my low-level invites in the low-level section and the mid/high levels will occasionally jump from mid to high or high to mid. Just because I've placed an SCC or whatever invite in the mid-level section doesn't mean I'll easily give it away. I still have my own rules and and will do thorough searches before giving out said invitations. Yes, sometimes I strike out and do give them to a lesser-informed BT user, but again, that was my decision and I'll accept that fact.

There are members simply lowering their standards just to hand out their invitations, but that's a decision the inviter will have to make and perhaps regret if something happens to their own account.

I'll also like to point out that T-I's main objective is to provide these exclusive, more-difficult-to-get-into, trackers to the entire community. To make these invites readily available to members who inviters feel are deserving of an invitation. I believe we've accomplish that feat and I don't mind where we're at right now with our invite system.

In conclusion, it really comes down to: if you're providing the invite, you make the decision, you decide where it goes, and you better not regret giving out the invite to the member you've chosen.

Originally Posted by el2em

I don't know about giving inviters incentives just to place their invitations where they should belong in the first place. I see what you're saying about supposedly higher-level trackers dropping lower and lower within the invite section, but again, that's up to the inviters to decide where to post their give-aways.

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In conclusion, it really comes down to: if you're providing the invite, you make the decision, you decide where it goes, and you better not regret giving out the invite to the member you've chosen.

Quite well said. I only write to clarify that the incentives I was speaking of was to create more of a separation between the midlevel and trusted giveaway qualifications. In that way, when members are deciding where to place their invites, there would be theoretically less risk by placing them in the hypothetically augmented trusted section and thus more incentive (from a risk scenario) in doing so. Perhaps you understood my point, but I wanted to make sure it was clear. Otherwise, I think you are right on and your closing paragraph said it far better than I could.

This topic has been discussed ad nauseum since I joined here this time last year. And every time it does, the overwhelming consensus is that things are working fine the way they are. If you make things too difficult, people get bored and go elsewhere. People are responsible for their own invites. el2em said it perfectly, so I won't elaborate.

In a nutshell? The system is working, I don't see a need to change it.