Chopping-thread for people not using their accounts after inviting them

[KeYBoarD1337]

I've been thinking about this for a while, a thread on the chopping-block for user that haven't been active on the tracker/s you've invited them to. Some rules, general info about my suggestion:

• You are only allowed to report your invitee if your she/he have not uploaded at least 5GB in 3 Weeks.

• You are only allowed to report your invitee if you have notified/she he at least once that she/he is considered inactive by you. You must also have asked why she/he has been inactive; if a valid reason(in your opinion) is given he/she should not be reported in the thread. A valid reason could be; "I've been away for a couple of weeks"(provided it can be proven), I've been building a huge buffer on this very-hardseeded tracker for these weeks(would only be acceptable if this user can show this huge buffer, ofc).
• The thread should not be used to start personal wars against other users; If you've invited a guy that you later don't like for some reason and he haven't been so inactive but still have been active enough to not fit in in the thread, he should not under any circumstances be reported, no matter how much you hate him
• Users should be able to defend themselves; just because a user have been inactive on one place doesn't mean he/she is/will be inactive everywhere.
• First offense of this kind would lead to an infraction, second would lead to a harder punishment+ plus be added to a list of users that have 2 offenses of these kind and third should lead to temporary/permanent ban.
• BEFORE PUTTING HE/SHE IN THE THREAD, YOU HAVE TO PM HIM/HER THAT YOU WILL DO THAT! The user must have a chance to get proofs/explanations ready, and this will also work as a last-warning-function if the user maybe explains everything and provides proof to back up your explanation in PM before being put there.

IMO the pros would be that you have a less risk of inviting a inactive user(sometimes traders are inactive too because they're often collectors,would weed some of them out too) but the con would be that users reputations may be partially destroyed for a minor offense like this one.



I want your opinions, additions and further suggestions regarding this matter. Thanks!:001_smile:

[rubberfuist]

Some users are just not as active as others and in my invitees can be as inactive as they see fit (as I am not their mother) but I would maybe report them in the case of inactivity leading to an inactivity ban. This site really is about giving people an oppertunity to have a tracker they want. From the moment you hand out your invite to the invitee it's really their account to take care of. Of course it's logical to report cheaters and such because they form a huge threat to future inviters. But inactivity is imo only a minor offense (though is it clearly disrespectful towards the inviter). The inviter should have never trusted a person who wasn't going to use the tracker anyway.

[KeYBoarD1337]

Some users are just not as active as others and in my invitees can be as inactive as they see fit (as I am not their mother) but I would maybe report them in the case of inactivity leading to an inactivity ban. This site really is about giving people an oppertunity to have a tracker they want. From the moment you hand out your invite to the invitee it's really their account to take care of. Of course it's logical to report cheaters and such because they form a huge threat to future inviters. But inactivity is imo only a minor offense (though is it clearly disrespectful towards the inviter). The inviter should have never trusted a person who wasn't going to use the tracker anyway.

I understand you, but at the same time I've invited at least one that have been inactive and I don't know if he's done like that on other trackers, but it would be nice to have some sort of preventation from having users "snatching" invites and then go inactive on all the trackers.

[Jekata]

This is a great suggestion mate,but I think it's too harsh to punish these members here at T-I for their inactivity at some of their trackers(for cheating yes,but not for inactivity).They are many collectors,I know(I have invited at least a docent of them;mostly on the low level trackers),but they may not liked the tracker or they have expected more from it and are just dissapointed and have decided to leave their account get pruned or not be as active as we would like them to be.I am personaly not super active on all my trackers and on some I have less upload than the others,but that doesn't mean I am not using them.
BTW we had a similar thread at the Vip section and it's really hard to determine the criteria for inactivity.Maybe the best criteria is the one set by the trackers(30 days of inactivity and the account is pruned).But we never talked about punishing members,who are not using their acounts;we were thinking of creating a list of the people,who only collect trackers and haven't uploaded even one GB and just never invite them again.But making this list public or giving infraction for that is too harsh I think.Everybody should be very careful with the people,which he invites and make sure they are the right people,who will eventually become active members of the tracker and will use it.This is all inviter's responsibility.That's my opinion on this matter.
Jekata out!

[KeYBoarD1337]

This is a great suggestion mate,but I think it's too harsh to punish these members here at T-I for their inactivity at some of their trackers(for cheating yes,but not for inactivity).They are many collectors,I know(I have invited at least a docent of them;mostly on the low level trackers),but they may not liked the tracker or they have expected more from it and are just dissapointed and have decided to leave their account get pruned or not be as active as we would like them to be.I am personaly not super active on all my trackers and on some I have less upload than the others,but that doesn't mean I am not using them.
BTW we had a similar thread at the Vip section and it's really hard to determine the criteria for inactivity.Maybe the best criteria is the one set by the trackers(30 days of inactivity and the account is pruned).But we never talked about punishing members,who are not using their acounts;we were thinking of creating a list of the people,who only collect trackers and haven't uploaded even one GB and just never invite them again.But making this list public or giving infraction for that is too harsh I think.Everybody should be very careful with the people,which he invites and make sure they are the right people,who will eventually become active members of the tracker and will use it.This is all inviter's responsibility.That's my opinion on this matter.
Jekata out!

Yeah, maybe I was too harsh in my suggestion but maybe a less harsher form(maybe we could report users by PM to staff or something) would be better. I'm not super-extremely-mega-active on all my trackers either, but even on the ones I've found I don't really need I still try to upload a bit now and then to satisfy my inviter. Like Bitme, got about 65GB uploaded there and about 35GB Downloaded, although I barely need the tracker right now I still go in sometimes and see if there's something with much leechers that I can grab and get some upload from. I mean, it doesn't really hurt. Just because you don't like a tracker doesn't mean you can't upload 20-100GB or write a few forum posts...

[JustJenna]

We aren't police. Traders and scammers should always be reported because it endangers the person who invited them. Inactivity will never jeopardize your inviter's account, therefore its not the responsibility of T-I to oversee it.

To avoid inviting collectors, be careful of who you invite. Check their iGiver history, and ask previous inviters about their activity levels. Ask for profile links.

This is the best we can tell you. Collecting is frowned upon but its in no way a bannable offense nor is it something we can police.

[Josh]

i have mixed feelings regarding this, i mostly only bother to give invites to friends now, but when i do give an invite out to someone else id be happy if they got the tracker just for 1 thing that they really wanted, atleast they're getting a significant use out of it, rather than people who will just download shit they dont need for one more good ratio. if i invite someone and they download something they really want, atleast i get the feeling that i helped that person receive something rather than just giving someone another tracker.

Do i think most people should probably use a tracker for more than 1 torrent of course, but like i said, its about helping others out and to me if helping a person out is giving them a tracker so they can find that one longed after torrent than so be it. it doesnt hurt me in anyway and they got a significant use out of it.

Not a bad idea, just doesn't really apply to how i look at giving invites out anymore. but of course some people view things differently which is cool with me. just my 2 tiny pennies.

Josh

[neurowiz]

I'm afraid I am not seeing the problem with inviting a member to a tracker and then the user not being active. It does no harm to the inviter except that his invite may have been better served somewhere else.

Plus, there is a natural progression in the torrent world where people start out at "low level" trackers and then move on to the higher echelons of bittorrent society. Sometimes it's just more economical to let the lower level trackers die rather than try to seed 20 different torrent sites. Not everyone has a monster connection capable of keeping up with cross-seeding to every site currently in existence.

Finally, it really isn't possible to know if a site is right for you until you get in. Some sites get very hyped up, making members very excited to get an invite, and yet, once they do, it becomes clear that the tracker is not what they hoped for. Sometimes a site just sounds perfect on paper, but it turns out that it doesn't have any torrents you may want. Is everybody supposed to maintain accounts they don't want just to maintain reputation on the site? I hope not.

So I'd have to say no to this one. Collectors suck, but the rules that you're suggesting would punish perfectly good members who are just moving on to bigger and better things after initially using an invite as well.

[baloo]

sometimes when you get on a tracker it just isn't everything you thought it would be. it took me a while to start using my ScL account, but once I got started on it it was okay. i would just suggest to an invitee that he asks for his account removed by a mod so he isn't taking up space rather than just being inactive.

[KeYBoarD1337]

sometimes when you get on a tracker it just isn't everything you thought it would be. it took me a while to start using my ScL account, but once I got started on it it was okay. i would just suggest to an invitee that he asks for his account removed by a mod so he isn't taking up space rather than just being inactive.

I do understand that - but as you can see yourself you were active! Not much, but still a bit. I think the problem with inviting inactive users is that if you invite several inactive users/other user that cheat/trade/something that get staffs attention, having 5 inactive users in your invite tree doesn't really serve for you as a good user, in the end it might raise your chances to get banned. Not directly, bu indirectly. I also think it's unfortunate to have collectors on a site like this one, if a user have told me that this site is exactly what he's looking for and really need and desire, then I expect him to use the site. If I then see that guy running around and asking in other G/As I can't help myself thinking I should PM them and tell them to avoid that user, but at the same time I haven't done that because I don't know if he'll be inactive at those sites - but if it later shows up he is inactive at those another invite(that might've costed you money) is wasted and another user that doesn't serve for your own good in case you get staff attention. Except that good users in your invitetree would be as a vouching voice for you, it just feels a lot better if the invited uses his account now that he's been asking for it so nicely and having that and that reason....