Curb bickering in Introduction threads

[Veritas]

I can bring a new thing here, the first dude that post in intro, for repping that new person, that intro is his and no other member can hi-jack it... or will receive an bad rep point ;) how`s that ?? Oh and maybe the limit for users to post in intro will be from 55% or 75% in progress bar..

[staffrodore]

While that would be a good idea it wouldn't work to well in reality. If that first person goes offline for a few days the new person is left hanging. Is that fair for him?
I think it's fine to post in intro threads that are being taken care off only if you bring something new to the discussion. repeating what others have said isn't really helping.

[mt3ch]

I can bring a new thing here, the first dude that post in intro, for repping that new person, that intro is his and no other member can hi-jack it... or will receive an bad rep point ;) how`s that ?? Oh and maybe the limit for users to post in intro will be from 55% or 75% in progress bar..

I agree with this. The first user who posts in an introduction thread should see it all the through until the new applicant is either repped in or dismissed. What causes all the confusion and fights is multiple people putting in their own 2 cents into each introduction. One member to each introduction, problem solved. If a member begins working on an intro and then leaves them hanging for more than 48 hours, they should be banned from T-I or from the introduction thread. If you can't finish it, don't start it.

[flutrose]

I'm not sure I agree with requiring a higher % to post in intro threads. The concept is very good - the problem lies in the proliferation of stupid meaningless threads to spam in order to up the post count. Get rid of those and make it so when you look at post counts you'll pretty much know that the person behind that number used their brain to make those posts and I'd support it 100%.

I also think that mt3ch's ideas about one person seeing an introduction through are good, and the idea of a time limit to either rep the person in or refuse to rep their app is also good.

But I heartily disagree with the idea of banishment or loss of privileges for a member who is unable to continue processing the applications they're working on. Isn't that a bit harsh? Realistically, each and every one of us could be taken away from the computer for an extended period and I don't think we should be punished for things that may be out of our control.

[underc0ver]

staffrodore: Thanks for pointing out the VIP system to me, I was aware that donors get VIP automatically, but I assumed that it's possible to get VIP by working hard as well, which doesn't seem to be true... Therfore I was mistaken about that.

I really like the new idea that was brought up by kidumik: There should be higher requirements for people to post into the introductions, which means that it is only possible for experienced members to give feedback and be in contact with the new recruits. I'm not sure if the post count, the expierience bar or the repps are the right indicator to tell wheter someone should be allowed to post in there, I let you, the more experienced guys with more knowledge about this forum, discuss that issue ;)

However I agree with flutrose, any form of harsh punishment will probably turn away the users from handling introductions, therfore I don't think that this is a good idea. Giving only experienced members the right to handle introductions is probably enough.

[staffrodore]

An error on my part, you can win VIP by being member of the month which is handed out to one user per month. Which is what I meant in my post by MOTM.

[listener]

I see this topic is partly about me. I'm very sorry for what happened in that thread. I intentionally decided not to respond to any of the verbal (or written of course ;) ) attacks anymore to avoid this kind of stuff.

I agree with this. The first user who posts in an introduction thread should see it all the through until the new applicant is either repped in or dismissed. What causes all the confusion and fights is multiple people putting in their own 2 cents into each introduction. One member to each introduction, problem solved. If a member begins working on an intro and then leaves them hanging for more than 48 hours, they should be banned from T-I or from the introduction thread. If you can't finish it, don't start it.

I see why you would want this, as it would make things easier to understand for the applicant and it would avoid possible arguments like the source for this topic.
However, I think it's impossible to something like that in reality.
The evolution of an introduction thread is not only determined by the posts of the reacting T-I member, but the applicant can also stay away for 1 or 2 days. This could cause intro's to take a very long time.


I think we should just focus on 1 primary thing: try to be as clear as possible towards the applicants.

If you see a member reacting in a way that you think is totally wrong, you can always pm the guy, right? That doesn't have to happen inside the intro thread...

[hummingbird]

sometimes there are those that are so eager to get to the 33% so they can write in the intro section which there is nothing wrong with it all the help is much appreciated by everyone but sometimes you need to find yourself more familiar with the rules then just jumping in. and arguing is completely uncalled for especially like it has been mentioned above that is the first impression we are giving potential members. Now in a part of the argument i read it talked about highjacking the thread well in introductions anyone can post their opinion and cant really highjack the thread but there is a thing with borderline flaming and that really shouldnt be tolerated. So if you want to write in the introduction page feel free but take into concideration that what the potential member is seeing is the first impression that they are going to get of TI. maybe raising the bar on who can post in the intro thread to 55% or higher I dont know but the bickering has have to stop. Try and help the people to get into TI and if they dont do what is asked of them just move on. and dont criticize someone for repping someone in one day and that person gets put on the chopping block for flaming or something like that because we are only limited to certain information, first time impressions, and it is the internet we cant see the people and their body language so we cant tell for sure if they are going to be a spammer or something more if they lie on their intro and do a good job of it. lets just work together and help each other

[flutrose]

It should also be made clearer to new members that posting in the Intro section does nothing to help them get to 33%. The posts there aren't counted - if they did a bunch of us would be a lot higher than 33%.

Edit: I think I misunderstood what hummingbird was trying to say.

[hummingbird]

no flutrose that is a good point though because some people want to try and start typing in the introduction section because they think it does count toward your post count and it doesnt. Maybe if it was more clearly stated people would be a little less turned on to just post to post and the ones actually posting there are honestly wanting to help out new members to get into TI not doing it for personal gain on their post count.