Thread: Access based on Seniority, Reputation and iGiver VS number of posts

This poll is a spin-off from some discussions in the suggestions section:

- A Dunce Sig idea!

As for spamming, this is something that is stimulated by the way people are getting access to for example mid level. Would access to mid level and other levels be given on iGiver status, rep status and seniority instead of number of posts, I am sure the spamming would stop instantly.

- Spam issue

I would even go further and totally eliminate the post requirements and give access to sections only based on seniority, reputation and iGiver points.

As for any of the forum sections (besides the marketplace) read access could be granted immediately after being repped in. Post access should be given after 1 week or so. Some sections where information value is considered higher, higher requirements can be set.

New newbie vomit section accessible immediately for all newbies after they have been repped in.
Above section can be cleaned from old vomit by the DBA on a regular basis to reduce DB size and diskspace/server cost.
:laugh:

The requirements for the marketplace section could look something like below:

Trusted Giveaways
- Member for at least 1 month
- Reputation status of at least 20
- iGiver status of at least 10

Mid Level Giveaways
- Member for at least 2 weeks
- Reputation status of at least 5
- iGiver status of at least 5

Low Level Giveaways
- Member for at least 1 week
- Reputation status of at least 1 (i.e. being repped in)
- iGiver status: N/A

No Level Giveaways (NEW)
(newbie section: whatever newbies offer or senior users feed the newbies)
- No seniority requirements
- Reputation status of at least 1 (i.e. being repped in)
- iGiver status: N/A

Give Bonuses
- Member for at least 1 week
- Reputation status of at least 1
- iGiver status: N/A

Request Invites
- Member for at least 2 weeks
- Reputation status of at least 5
- iGiver status of at least 5

In order to reduce spam and to avoid newbie invite "takers" I am suggesting access to several sections being provided based on seniority, reputation and iGiver points.

Obviously I have no idea what the implementation effort would be but at this point it is my belief that T-I needs to do something in order not to become a victim of its own success.

Let me know your thoughts.

Definetly....T should run on Seniority and iGivers...

Bcoz obtaining large no of post is not big thing...

But gaining repuation.... and obtaining iGiver is much difficult...And thats what distinguished you from others....

But maybe invites to mid level/higher level trackers should give more than 1x Igiver?. Imo its a greater give away to give 1x F*N or a similar tracker, instead of 1x Demonoid.

Originally Posted by Xilas

But maybe invites to mid level/higher level trackers should give more than 1x Igiver?. Imo its a greater give away to give 1x F*N or a similar tracker, instead of 1x Demonoid.

Xilas:
Demonoid GA's are not allowed and as such would never get an iGiver, but I understand your point. However, this is not what this thread tries to cover. This poll is to see whether people believe the method of gaining access to higher level sections should be altered or not.

As a general note to everybody reading in:
The levels of seniority, reputation and iGiver points that I mentioned are only an example. In case T-I embraces the idea they should be setting the thresholds accordingly.

Cheers,
PP

I like this idea.

I voted for the second option... access based on seniority/rep and other tangible measures of contribution... but can we wait until my stats are a little better before we start blocking off access I haven't even attained yet ?

You are wrong about how it is now. It is number of posts + rep + time on the site (just no iGivers) - your poll spreads misinformation. I think it should stay as it is.

In case of most wanted 'Trusted giveaways' (these are mostly what everyone looks for) it is 55%, which really doesn't go to random people - that's why it is the only one requiring reputation.

Low-level can be accessed from the very beginning (10%). Requiring 1 rep is stupid, 'cause 10% already includes it (you get it when repped in to the forum).

Requiring 10 days is also stupid - this is torrent-invites forum - ppl come here to give/get invites, you can't make them wait for that once they were let in to do that (which isn't that easy as it used to be anymore). That would make the forum useless for them for 10 days, that's all. Absolutely no advantage of that, just a silly pointless delay (would only hurt statistics - personally I'd go find looking another forum in that time).

And Mid-level? I'm not against requiring some more reputation, e.g. 33%, but on the other hand, let's get real - this is not really valuable stuff. PLUS + again - remember people are not here for chit-chat or to play mother Teresa. Some of them just get what they want and give stuff away and they don't get reputation 'cause they don't help anyone, write tuts and stuff (and rep is not required after a G/A as iGiver is).

iGiver limit is also idiotic.

1) Let's say I'm a Waffles user and I come in here for.. something. How the hell am I to access Trusted G/A to give away a Waffles invite I'd like to get rid of if I don't have any low-level shit to spread first? (that's a fresh authentic situation of one of our new member who asked for help in that matter). Neither competition invites or starting a g/a thread in low-level section (which I believe is against the rules) is a good idea 'cause I want only trusted users to see that!

2) Secondly, my iGiver count is 4. I can't really make it higher as I simply don't use low-level shit much and the ones that I do either don't use invite system anymore or are open most of the time. What then? Should I fuckin' wait forever to get my Waffles invite? I'll tell you what. I got it 2 months ago and I upload at least one unique torrent everyday. And I got it 'because I can be trusted on any other basis. And my inviter surely can be proud of me. iGiver doesn't really tell you anything about users. Unless they have a huge amount of them - they're surely collectors or something. But ppl like me, using torrents only for what they really need, would be discriminated.

And the last, but not least - there was already a discussion like that. It's a duplicated thread, with just a 'lil bit more detailed vision maybe.

Originally Posted by adenai

You are wrong about how it is now. It is number of posts + rep + time on the site (just no iGivers). Your poll spreads misinformation. I think it should stay as it is.

Adenai:
That would be true for the trusted section only, not for mid-level. People trying to get to mid-level as fast as possible by getting to 20 posts, is what is generating newbie spam imo.

B.t.w. I do not believe asking for an opinion is providing misinformation. You being able to express yours is making this poll serve its purpose.

Cheers,
PP

Originally Posted by adenai

You are wrong about how it is now. It is number of posts + rep + time on the site (just no iGivers) - in case of most wanted 'Trusted giveaways'. Your poll spreads misinformation. I think it should stay as it is.

I think you're missing the point. I don't think Purple meant that it was just based on post count as it is. The fact that there is a post count requirement encourages spam and I mentioned that in another thread as well. A new system based on iGiver or rep and NO post count would be much better for the following reasons:

1. Reduced Spam
2. Quality, helpful posts because of the rep requirement for not only the trusted giveaway section
3. iGiver shows how much someone has given back to the community and in some cases how trustworthy they are.

Post count doesn't tell you anything about a member besides how much they can spam the hell out of these forums.