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    TankGirl is offline TankGirl's Avatar T-I Special OPs

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    Quote Originally Posted by apocal View Post
    - they could post the email in the form for an invite - and if the inviter approves them it is shown to the inviter. If they have used this email for a previous invite offer for the same tracker, or consistantly use different emails. they would be flagged
    - if they have applied for the same tracker previously, or indicated they had been a member when they signed up, they would be flagged
    - if the ratio proof has been used by another member, they could be flagged
    - if they have applied for an invite for the same tracker in the last 24 hours, they would be unable to ask .. or perhaps they would, and if the inviter approved them the other requests would be automatically removed
    I use different emails for ALL my trackers - its good practice since it means IF one of my email addresses happens to be compromised the rest of my tracker accounts are safe, plus we don't allow emails to be posted on the forum and a form is unable to send that info separately to a different destination.
    There is no way for a form to check if a person has applied for that tracker before.
    There is no way for a form to check if someone has used someone elses proof.
    There is no way for a form to check other threads, so it cant prevent you applying in another GA.



    There is no facility available on the forum to allow what you are asking for Hearts, in fact I don't think there is one available full stop. If we were even to consider going down the template route it would be a set reply template that everyone would have to use, there would be no facility to edit/personalise it for specific requirements. I know for a fact that permission would NOT be given for everyone to set their own template via the forms mod as it would mean we would have - 130,182 different forms (1 per member).

    Add to all that, the fact that you need a way in which to force people to use your template (links will not suffice as people wont use them), the only way to do that is to code the reply button to the specific template set by yourselves which is impossible as you would need to create a new button for each thread created and then code said button to your individual reply templates, meaning you would need root access to the database and that is never going to happen.

    The suggestion in its basic form is good, but the reality of it all and what you are asking for can not be done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TankGirl View Post
    I use different emails for ALL my trackers - its good practice since it means IF one of my email addresses happens to be compromised the rest of my tracker accounts are safe, plus we don't allow emails to be posted on the forum and a form is unable to send that info separately to a different destination.
    There is no way for a form to check if a person has applied for that tracker before.
    There is no way for a form to check if someone has used someone elses proof.
    There is no way for a form to check other threads, so it cant prevent you applying in another GA.

    There is no facility available on the forum to allow what you are asking for Hearts, in fact I don't think there is one available full stop. If we were even to consider going down the template route it would be a set reply template that everyone would have to use, there would be no facility to edit/personalise it for specific requirements. I know for a fact that permission would NOT be given for everyone to set their own template via the forms mod as it would mean we would have - 130,182 different forms (1 per member).

    Add to all that, the fact that you need a way in which to force people to use your template (links will not suffice as people wont use them), the only way to do that is to code the reply button to the specific template set by yourselves which is impossible as you would need to create a new button for each thread created and then code said button to your individual reply templates, meaning you would need root access to the database and that is never going to happen.

    The suggestion in its basic form is good, but the reality of it all and what you are asking for can not be done.
    It was my thinking the form could use a database and be SQL driven, forms would enter the data and datatype into the database and link it to the member, database could be cleared on a biennial basis. Wouldn't be that hard to implement all of the above and more if it was the standard for giveaways that had to be used.

    It wouldn't need to be a template, rather it would build the form on the fly and need to make available a certain number of textboxes as dictated by the inviter (within hard limits of course) who would select the datatype (tracker, ratioproof, speedtest, other) and label. I understand most of this is out of the ability of the current forums to handle, and would probably have to be made separate. Many people have stated, it takes away a level of personalization to applications and giveaways, and this is true; but the crosschecking that could happen would make the whole thing a much safer experience with very little staff time spent policing (especially for the 10%).

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    OMG, its an invite application not a job application for the CIA.

    Databases, SQL driven queries, geeeeeez - sorry but this has gotten far to complicated just to apply for an invite. I could get the whole idea of using a template to standardise things but the way this is going its turning into a Spanish inquisition and far too complicated just for the sake of posting a reply in a set format.

    Having a system that records the information that you have suggested is all well and good but, it would be pointless. For example, if I were to steal someone's proof and use it as my own, I could and no automated system is going to detect that. If I was going to dupe on a tracker invite, I could do that as well - very easily in fact. As for email checking, pointless exercise - not everyone uses the same email address each time. Applying for a tracker before you were previously a member of - we allow that under certain circ's. Applying in multi threads at the same time - we allow that too and there is no restriction as to how many threads you can apply in or a time limit imposed for delays.

    But the biggest flaw that kind of system would have is.... automation breeds complacency and with complacency comes severe consequences. Meaning people would rely far too much on the automated checking and they would end up in a damn site more trouble than what the system and its upkeep is worth.


    Tipping the Spear of Victory before an Army of Darkness,
    she deals swift justice to whoever dare oppose her.
    Possessing hidden power of untold measure,
    she watches all who scurry beneath her gaze.
    One may try to imitate her, but none will succeed,
    for inclined to both limitless kindness and vengeance, She is at once,
    our Nemesis, "First and Last", and our Destruction.
    She is ...
    The Esteemed Exalted Mistress.


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    in simple words,i like the idea but we don't need it.

    just leave everyone write what he wants on his GA thread and be creative as KevinFlynn said.

    if this idea is going to be approved i'd like to see it only in 10%,u know Newbies members.

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    I think it's good the way it is here. It could be some problems if you send a lot of forms requesting the same tracker and then more than one person give you the invite.

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