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    Default Prohibit to give out invites to open to registration private trackers.

    There are many reasons why this should be approved. One of the reasons why is that if you are invited by some user there is always risk on your account if something bad this user that invite you do and you can get in trouble. There is always risk on inviter also if somone of the invitee do something bad than all on the invite tree are in risk. Some trackers are more strict about this some not. I just want to say that this should only apply to the trackers that are open most of the time or all the time. That trackers that they have open registration rarely have no restriction of giving invites out. I won't talk about names here but i see more and more people to give out invites to open to registration trackers which just make mess with other people that give invites to closed trackers. Is should be duty to all that give the invites to check if the tracker is open which can be simply done by google nameofthetracker signup.php or register.php and check the home page of the tracker where most of the time is the link to register new account. I don't know why but i have seen more and more people doing this just to increase their iGiver count. Open trackers most of the times give invites when you register your account and are also easy to gain invites and that's why more and more of them give out even if they are open. I understand that we have many rules already but is important to keep the quality of invites. Please give your opinion on this suggestion. Thanks for reading

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    This has been discussed before and, obviously, wasn't implemented. Again, I'll have to say members are free to invite others to wherever they want especially with the new addition of the miscellaneous GA. What you've suggested also goes both ways. It isn't just upto the inviter to figure out whether or not a tracker is open; it's also up to the invitee to, perhaps, do a bit of research themselves. This would be extremely difficult for staff to enforce and manage considering people are way too lazy to do the research and will simply ask for an invite here than look elsewhere.

    The Open Tracker section has also reduced the amount of open tracker GAs we've seen. Many people are actually using it. Even with a restriction rule in place people will continue to create GAs to open trackers and members will still continue to apply to them.

    As for you risking your account, the potential of losing it will always exist whether or not the tracker is public/semi-public/open registrations/private.

    Members will continue to do what they do with the current iGiver system in place. If you truly want to the avoid this scenario, we would have to completely abolish the system but that would definitely bring out the crazy in people.
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    Thank you for your post el2em you are right about that even invitee should look if the tracker is open before they apply for invite. What i wanted to say is that if you register to an open tracker there is no risk of losing your account becouse of your inviter or any other invitee. You can't lose your account because of someone else it's all on you if you are going to do something bad than no one will be affected just you and your personal information (email, ip) and not potentially the whole invite tree.

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    You are right specialized..it does make sense.....baffles me why people keep requesting invites for open trackers lol

    But as el2em said it's not practicle to enforce this...and it makes more sense that the person requesting an invite checks to see if there is open invite...

    but sometimes theres a good enough reason to apply for a invite from a member here even when theres open invite in the case where there are added bonuses given away with the invites which is beginning to be the case with most lower trackers...so it's upto the requesting member to choose which way he gets his invite..

    As for the problem of a possible bad invite...that is the inviters risk to take and take whatever precausions he wants (requesting proofs)...doesn't mean they should be stopped from giving away invites....in the end getting an invite is harder work as you have to post proofs and wait for an answer whereas checking to see it's open isn't very hard so it's the loss of the person wanting the invite really...

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    As an inviter, I do not keep track of whether my trackers have opened registration. If I do know and someone applies for an invite, I will tell them to go and register directly. This has happened a couple of times, but it is just as likely that a couple of times I have invited people to trackers with open registration without being aware of it. I don't see it as my job to keep track of it.

    I am lazy, and if I risk infractions or being banned for offering an invite at the wrong time, I probably will not offer the invite at all.

    If that makes me unethical then I am comfortable in my evilness :)
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    Maximum trackers open temporary signups i rarely see a all time open tracker GA
    Reason to oppose this suggestion i myself secured a coupla iGivers when i was pretty new to torrenting for inviting people to all time open trackers lol

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    The one big reason I can see this being a nightmare to enforce is, if a tracker is closed and you post up a give away, what do you do if that tracker suddenly decides to open its doors, even if it is regular. Not all trackers advertise that they are having an open sign up weekend/few days/week, would you expect ALL those that have open threads to close them, because I cant see that happening and to be perfectly honest it would take a lot of moderating to ensure that everyone did close their respective threads in question.

    I'm sorry but, I really don't see a reason for this. If an inviter has invites to a tracker and they want to give them away regardless of that tracker being open or closed then so be it. At the end of the day, they are their invites and they can do with them as they please (except trade etc), I am pretty certain that most people are well aware of the risks involved when giving out invites. However, I somewhat suspect that this may have something to do with a certain parties blog rather than genuine concern for peoples accounts.
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    I really like the suggestion and I brought it up yesterday in a blog comment, which means I'm definitely positive disposed. Giving away invites to a tracker that is also open for signup is not only unnecessary risk, but on the plus side for the inviters it's one of the easiest ways to gain a lot of igivers.

    On the other hand, as already mentioned before, it's impossible to implement it, because open tracker checkers don't track the smaller, rather secret trackers, exactly those that sometimes open signups for a very short time period. This makes an automatic solution, as time consuming it would have already been, impossible to implement.

    Let's take HDCorea as an example: They were usually extremely hard to get a membership (content is totally irrelevant), had invites closed for some time, but let's assume they also had a few invites available. If someone makes a giveaway for a tracker in such a situtation like this and the tracker suddenly starts to open it's gates for all members for several days, for one random hour each day, you can't expect someone to close and open the giveaway constantly. (and as well as the moderators to check it)

    That raises the question where to draw the line between a tracker that opens for signup very rarely and one tracker that is open quite frequently. The best way would be to use percentages as in 'Open for signup 5%/year' for example. This data doesn't have to be totally accurate, but it would give a good measurement and creates the ability to, for example forbid giveways for trackers that are open for 30% of the time while they are open for the public.

    Even the last, and in my opinion, easiest way requires a lot of work and maybe even confusion for the members, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't totally appreciate a rule against giveways like that.
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    I would say that when trackers are open. Giveaways for that tracker should be on hold.

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    I'd like to add that iGivers are primarily for record keeping and are NOT LIKE REP. I never use the amount of iGivers someone has as a measure of their activity on site, I do however use their rep for that purpose. Many people give away minimum bonus amount x 500. Thats 500 "easy" igivers, are we going to stop that too?

    I know this is slightly off topic, but I'm sick of seeing people concerned that others are getting iGivers easily. Rep is what matters, and that doesn't come easily.
    Last edited by JamesG; December 7th, 2011 at 01:31 AM.

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