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    Default Don't count posts in the Request section

    I think posts in the request section should not count to your post count, exactly the same way as posts in the 'spam sections' don't count.
    Some people have have 50 or even hundred bumps in a request that will never get filled anyways and those people often have multiple threads like that.
    The problem isn't as bad as it used to be with the new requirements for 75%/99% and 100%, but it's still unfair to those that post a lot in the Help/Bittorrent discussion and Seedbox discussion sections.
    All posts in Area51 are, except for the open posts, extremely short and usually don't have any meaning at all, but I don't think that it's good to not count all posts in Area51, on the other hand.



    Please try to judge this from an objective perspective and not because your Request threads have given you 100 or even 500 posts.

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    or mod for board like this one: Bump or de-bump thread w/ usergroup permissions - vBulletin.org Forum or something similar if exists

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    I agree with you. This last days I've seen my post count going up mostly because of my bumps in my Sinderella.me request and it was starting to make me uncomfortable. No real content >> posts shouldn't count.

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    I completely agree with your suggestion.
    But, and please correct me if I am wrong, on previous occasion suggestions like these have been turned down on the basis that Area 51 is sort of "the primus motor" of TI, and extreme caution should be taken when considering any measurements which would decrease the activity of the subforum.
    Consequently the following question must be considered: would this lead to a decreased activity on Area51? In my personal opinion, I believe it would not (Obviously it would in terms of number of posts, but not when considering actual productive activity).
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    I only meant it for the Request section, because you really can't disable post count in Giveaways, because that's basically the heart of T-I even though those post usually don't have a lot of meaning too.

    I don't think that disabling post count in the Request section will reduce the amounts of posts, because people post their because they want to get an invite, or have valuable information about a tracker. I really like that we have very strict rules for the Request section and spam gets deleted asap.

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    Yeah, as you said, the line of disabled post-count should be drawn at requests, and no further.
    On discussion whether or not it would decrease the actual post count in the request-section; I am sure that some people feel more tempted to bump their request every day, instead of every third, or fourth, day, simply with the motivation (even if it is not the primary motivation) to increase their post count. And this is the reason why this would be good, and also as stated by you in the opening post; you shouldn't be able to inflate your post count by making completely unproductive posts.
    Bottom line from me is that I support this suggestion, I just wanted to elaborate a bit further than to just press like. :)
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    I like the thought you have here, however I don't think it hurts anything considering you now have to have a cosniderable amount of rep along with post count and time on site to reach the higher levels. If someone has 100+ posts consisting of "Bump" and very few posts that are rep worthy then why would it matter if those bump posts count?

    No one will rep a "bump" post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma78 View Post
    I like the thought you have here, however I don't think it hurts anything considering you now have to have a cosniderable amount of rep along with post count and time on site to reach the higher levels. If someone has 100+ posts consisting of "Bump" and very few posts that are rep worthy then why would it matter if those bump posts count?

    No one will rep a "bump" post.
    It's true. It used to be a lot worse before the rule changes and I guess the mods had already something like that in mind, but the rep requirements are still very low. I still makes sense to get a high post count with request bumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma78 View Post
    I like the thought you have here, however I don't think it hurts anything considering you now have to have a cosniderable amount of rep along with post count and time on site to reach the higher levels. If someone has 100+ posts consisting of "Bump" and very few posts that are rep worthy then why would it matter if those bump posts count?

    No one will rep a "bump" post.
    That's a well-thought argument and what you say about the reputation is true, but it's a bit like taking the number of posts out of the equation, which right now is not true. A user's rank is defined by time on the site, reputation AND amount of posts (as we all are aware of) so between us, we see those factors as trust signs too.
    Last edited by kokofan; October 18th, 2011 at 01:06 PM.
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    @Magister I disagree with the rep being too low. Consideirng up until recently rep wasn't required at all for the higher levels I think what they are set at now is awesome. Again no one will rep a "bump" post, actually I don't beleive it's allowed to begin with so if a user doesn't put forth the effort to make posts outside the request section that gets them rep from us then honestly post count doesn't matter in my opinion.

    I like the suggestion don't get me wrong but I don't think it's needed, unless there is a clear case of people abusing that section to get post count while then getting rep elsewhere, which actually now that I say that it really doesn't matter because if someone puts forth the effort to gain the rep needed then they deserve the rank in my opinion.

    Anyone can make a post, hell I think when I joined the spam section counted intially which of course I can understand the reasoning for removing the count there, and I can liken it to what you want to accomplish here. However with the new system I don't think it's needed personally.

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