Thread: Anonymous Payments

guys MoneyPak is 100% anonymous. nothing to register, you buy the card, and give me the code lol. That is just like cash except you have to pay like a $3.95 fee to use it lol

Originally Posted by U2Fan

With respect to IP addresses, I am only concerned about the logging that is associated with the billing and administrative account access. I assume that the day to day logs of server access aren't retained for more than a couple weeks and would provide very little information of value, in my opinion. Am I being too cavalier about this?

Yep, too cavalier.... If they keep the records for a few hours, and your server gets confiscated in a raid, then your finger print could be all over it. You want a seedbox company that logs to /dev/null. However, that would make it impossible to deal with anyone hacking into your server, but what would you prefer?

Originally Posted by bluboy

guys MoneyPak is 100% anonymous. nothing to register, you buy the card, and give me the code lol. That is just like cash except you have to pay like a $3.95 fee to use it lol

Exactly. That's why it will be my next purchase.

You've got to pay 3.95 for those visa/mc cards also so there's no difference. Also another thing I had learned was that you can't actually link a prepaid gift card to paypal since it's not a real CC. That might be a problem I was experiencing too. Check PayPal's faq about it.

Ultimately I don't know if the payment would go through or not with a gift card but MoneyPak is the way to go for using paypal.

And again, proxies or vpns will help in reducing the IP trail while making payments. Won't so much help while you download from the ftp to your home pc on your own IP, though. ;)

Originally Posted by E5yx8kQH

Ultimately I don't know if the payment would go through or not with a gift card but MoneyPak is the way to go for using paypal.

OK, but PayPal demands proofs, don't they? Water bills, passport scans etc. So as long as you need to pay via PayPal you are never anonymous, or not?

Why not just use a provider that accepts Bitcoin as payment? It doesn't get more anonymous than that.

Originally Posted by knn

OK, but PayPal demands proofs, don't they? Water bills, passport scans etc. So as long as you need to pay via PayPal you are never anonymous, or not?

No. Some of those may be required if you are trying to add a real bank account to your account or go through some kind of enhanced identity confirmation. But you can create a account and add funds without any kind of verification.

Originally Posted by Tori42

Why not just use a provider that accepts Bitcoin as payment? It doesn't get more anonymous than that.

Off the top of my head, from all the seedbox services I've looked at none take Bitcoin. Bitcoins are more of a hassle to obtain than going down to a local store and buying a Moneypak. Buying the Bitcoins in the first place is not anonymous since you have to pay for them somehow (which may not be as big a concern but why leave any trail). Bitcoin transactions themselves are not fully anonymous, and can be traced if someone really wanted to. Bitcoin network can be and has been hacked and your bitcoins stolen. The value fluctuates all the time so if a seedbox will take payment as 20 bitcoins, yet you bought at a high period of $9 each, well that's $180 for something that otherwise would be $25.

Just a couple ideas to why not bitcoin :)

Originally Posted by E5yx8kQH

No. Some of those may be required if you are trying to add a real bank account to your account or go through some kind of enhanced identity confirmation. But you can create a account and add funds without any kind of verification.

Is this true in the US? In the EU it's not true. I have managed now 7 accounts and they all demand extensive documentation.

It might vary from country to country. I'm sure information could be found on their website. I'm only familiar with US accounts.

but a US vpn/proxy = US ip = US fake paypal account :)

bitcoins are accepted at http://www.bytesized-hosting.com/