Thread: GetASeedbox.com performance

Hey there.



I have been using the 1Gbps(up/down) seedbox (5 users per server) from this company.

Up to now the best I have seen in only a few instances is 27 MB/s. Is this a normal performance for a 1Gbps box?

In general what would you expect to get, in terms of performace/speed from
a) a 100Mbps seedbox
b) a 1Gbps seedox
c) a 100Mbps dedicated
d) a 1Gbps dedicated

By the way has anyone else used GetASeedbox.com? Any feedback?

I hope someone can help me on these.

Thanks.

well, i havnt used a seedbox from getaseedbox, but 100Mbps dedicated is probably the best way to go. I have a semi dedicated server from rapidspeeds (100Mbps) and i rarely see over 25 Mbps on a private torrent, public i can see upload or download at 100-109 ( since its on a 1gbps switch ). honestly unless your distributing content and not just ratio buffering, i doubt you will see desired speeds from it.

Speeds also depend on the swarm... If you are not using automated tools to download/seed or not a regular uploader, you are always late to get high outgoing speeds unless it is a very very very popular torrent.

That said, and "denying" steamace's comment about 100Mbps/25Mbps, I regularly see speeds well over 80MB/s on my Gbit-machines, both incoming as outgoing but again, only when jumping on torrents very early or uploading to a decent user-base (sometimes I'm only seeder to 500+ leechers). The cost between a dedicated 100 or 1000 Mbps machine is just 50% more usually and if you can manage the $$$, I would always opt for the faster speed.

But then again, if the hardware is inferior and cannot keep up reading/writing data, it will hamper any speeds at any time and render even the fastest connection useless. Would suggest finding at least SATA2 in RAID0 from resellers or SAS or SATA3 for your own dedicated machine.

Originally Posted by steamace

well, i havnt used a seedbox from getaseedbox, but 100Mbps dedicated is probably the best way to go. I have a semi dedicated server from rapidspeeds (100Mbps) and i rarely see over 25 Mbps on a private torrent, public i can see upload or download at 100-109 ( since its on a 1gbps switch ). honestly unless your distributing content and not just ratio buffering, i doubt you will see desired speeds from it.

So you think that 100Mbps dedicated is better than 1Gbps shared between 5 users? To my mind 1Gbps shared between 5 users would mean 200Mbps dedicated to each, so that would make it better than a 100Mbps dedicated. Am i mistaken in my assumptions?

When you say "i rarely see over 25 Mbps" that means that is 25/8 = 3.125 MB/s speed. Right? In my case I was talking about much higher speeds up to 27 MB/s. Is that right?

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Originally Posted by DutchRuff

Speeds also depend on the swarm... If you are not using automated tools to download/seed or not a regular uploader, you are always late to get high outgoing speeds unless it is a very very very popular torrent.

Could you give me some more info on that? What's a swarm? And what automated tools are you referring to and what's their use?

Originally Posted by DutchRuff

I regularly see speeds well over 80MB/s on my Gbit-machines, both incoming as outgoing but again, only when jumping on torrents very early or uploading to a decent user-base (sometimes I'm only seeder to 500+ leechers).

You see this kind of speed (80MB/s) on a dedicated 1GBps line or shared between 5 users (like mine)?

How can I jump on torrents very early? It seems that anytime I go to the new torrents as fast as I can, there are always other people there first.

Originally Posted by DutchRuff

But then again, if the hardware is inferior and cannot keep up reading/writing data, it will hamper any speeds at any time and render even the fastest connection useless. Would suggest finding at least SATA2 in RAID0 from resellers or SAS or SATA3 for your own dedicated machine.

As I have no idea about this hardware stuff, do you have a specific seedbox/dedicated server website/company to suggest?

Well, I always look at the swarm as being the total amount of people on a torrent. The less people willing to grab a torrent, the less speeds will be when the amount of seeders grows. In my previous example, when I am the only seeder and 500+ people want data from me, the bittorrent protocol will try & push out as many seperate packets from my machine to populate the distributed availability on all leechers. It takes longer for a good amount of leechers to become seeder so my machine will be outputting higher speeds for longer time to satisfy the hunger of others. In general, usually 75MB/s to 25MB/s in the first half hour, after that there are enough other seeders to supply the "minor leechers" so speeds die quickly to under 5MB/s for myself.

Automation would be things like rss or irc-downloading. Most trackers announce what is being posted; let's call that moment X and it is triggered by any upload done to the site. It is very possible that when you refresh the site, the torrent is not listed yet although 15 people are already queued on that torrent because they seen it posted at moment X. Few minutes later, for whatever reason, it shows up in the torrentlist on the site and you want to grab it. You are basically then #16 in the queue (arbitrary number) and will not only get data slower than the other 15, you will also get more random packets to store. In the end, not only your incoming speeds but also outgoing speeds could be very much less than the other 15 people since they were first to grab something.

Speeds on shared boxes always vary. If nobody is downloading/uploading, it could be very possible that you use the entire line and get 1Gbps speeds. But if others are uploading at, let's say, 200Mbps in total, there is a very slim chance you will be able to utilize the remaining 800Mbps because the machine itself is doing tasks thus creating overhead, like reading from disk. Would this mean you need to get an unshared machine? I dunno, depends on the $$$ and the knowledge one has of configuring/maintaining a machine.

I can't do any recommendations aside from buying yourself. I run several machines @ OVH, all single-user, all Gbit-enabled and all custom-installed. I cannot and don't want to know/interfere in the business other companies offer, regardless of their hardware-specs or support.

/edit: on the automation-part... Few friends of mine visit the same irc-channels and have accounts on same trackers. We each get a certain torrent and one uploads it to another site. Since we all know we have the data, we can immediately seed with 3 to 5 servers on that other site, making it almost impossible for any leecher, regardless with high or low connection, to get high outgoing speeds themselves.

Originally Posted by DutchRuff

You are basically then #16 in the queue (arbitrary number) and will not only get data slower than the other 15, you will also get more random packets to store. In the end, not only your incoming speeds but also outgoing speeds could be very much less than the other 15 people since they were first to grab something.

Very useful stuff DutchRuff! I didn't know that if you get 16th on the line, you have a disadvantage over the first 15 in terms of upload/download speed. This is like queuing priority. I was told it doesn't matter if you are first or last in line, it all has to do with the speed you have to offer. So i guess that's wrong right?

Originally Posted by DutchRuff

Automation would be things like rss or irc-downloading. Most trackers announce what is being posted; let's call that moment X and it is triggered by any upload done to the site.

This is the first time I read about this. I have no idea how to do it. Could you give some extra info or where I could read on how to implement this?

Originally Posted by torrentmak

Very useful stuff DutchRuff! I didn't know that if you get 16th on the line, you have a disadvantage over the first 15 in terms of upload/download speed. This is like queuing priority. I was told it doesn't matter if you are first or last in line, it all has to do with the speed you have to offer. So i guess that's wrong right?

Yup, you can't expect outgoing high speeds when you're last to grab something and nobody leeches anymore, now can you?

This is the first time I read about this. I have no idea how to do it. Could you give some extra info or where I could read on how to implement this?

Not sure, try looking around on your trackers what they offer. RSS is usually there but still will have a delay on the update. Some trackers offer irc to keep track of uploads but you still need extra plugins to actually grab it. And it also depends on what software your seedbox is running and up to what level you got shell access to add/modify certain software.

Terms to look for: autodl-irssi, rss, irc auto downloader

Originally Posted by DutchRuff

Yup, you can't expect outgoing high speeds when you're last to grab something and nobody leeches anymore, now can you?

I am not sure if I understand the same thing you're trying to tell me. Let me demonstrate my question using an example.

Scenario A:
Let's say I see a torrent and it says 1 seed 0 leech and i start leeching right there (i am the first leecher). Right at the next moment 15 others start leeching. So, right after that, we are total 1 seed 16 leeches but i was the 1st leech.

Scenario B:
Second situation torrent says 1 seed 0 leech and 15 leechers enter at that time. Right at the next moment i become the 16th leecher. Again we are 1 seed and 16 leeches as in Scenario A but i was the 16th leecher.

Assuming all 15 leechers are the same (same connections etc) will i get same up/down speeds in both scenarios?

Originally Posted by DutchRuff

Not sure, try looking around on your trackers what they offer. RSS is usually there but still will have a delay on the update. Some trackers offer irc to keep track of uploads but you still need extra plugins to actually grab it. And it also depends on what software your seedbox is running and up to what level you got shell access to add/modify certain software.

Terms to look for: autodl-irssi, rss, irc auto downloader

OK nevermind for the IRC as I am very amateur in order to get all those plugins and seebox modifications right.
However, I guess RSS I could make it work much easier, as it won't need any plugins or seedbox modifications, right?

Originally Posted by torrentmak

I am not sure if I understand the same thing you're trying to tell me. Let me demonstrate my question using an example.

Scenario A:
Let's say I see a torrent and it says 1 seed 0 leech and i start leeching right there (i am the first leecher). Right at the next moment 15 others start leeching. So, right after that, we are total 1 seed 16 leeches but i was the 1st leech.

Scenario B:
Second situation torrent says 1 seed 0 leech and 15 leechers enter at that time. Right at the next moment i become the 16th leecher. Again we are 1 seed and 16 leeches as in Scenario A but i was the 16th leecher.

Assuming all 15 leechers are the same (same connections etc) will i get same up/down speeds in both scenarios?

Well, speeds are always very difficult to predict; it's a sum & division of all incoming & outgoing connections + amount of uploader slots per seeder + packet buffering and more.

In general terms, you are almost guaranteed to get better ratio (not necessarily speed) in scenario A than in scenario B. Especially is in scenario A you were already leeching when the first of the next 15 wanted that torrents as well.

OK nevermind for the IRC as I am very amateur in order to get all those plug[ins and seebox modifications right.
However, I guess RSS I could make it work much easier, as it won't need any plugins or seedbox modifications, right?

Well, you do need a RSS-aggregator installed on seedbox. Most providers offering ruTorrent as web-interface, have the rss-plugin installed as well. Basically, get a rss-url configured from tracker A, input it in your web-interface, configure filter to download certain things like /(prison.*break|heroes)/i and as soon as a release matches your filter, the seedbox will try to grab it.

Both filter and rss-option totally depend on the provider you are with; some use FlexGet which is very hard to get configured, others don't offer RSS at all.