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  1. #1

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    Default Need help to start torrent website

    Hi TI community,

    I need help to start a torrent business.

    Lately I have been working on a Seedbox project. I'm looking forward to start a website based on anime that will seed torrent. Spare me the copyright crap, this will be offshore. I'll also use VPS
    Assuming my knowledge with torrent is very limited, I would need some good guy to help me out making this possible by answering some of the question I'm asking myself.

    So firstly, here the idea I have : The website will allow free user to download the torrent with limited download. The file will be password protected via winrar and the free user will need to go download a file possessing the password in order to open it. That will generate me profit that way from my free user. You can also subscribe into the website for free. That way you can have access to the file without password protection, slightly faster speed but a ratio 1seed:2download. Another possibility will be gold + account where you need to pay for the subscription. If you upgrade your account to gold +, you will be allowed to download at huge speed and upload some file in my seed-box for a certain amount of space. All file uploaded on my torrent server will be checked and need to respect the rule of the website, of course. I'll also add my file on other torrent website with very limited download speed and will make some publicity on my site to encourage my website activity if they need faster speed.

    So the question I am asking myself are the following :



    1. Is this even possible?
    2. Will I need to make multiple torrent for each file to be able to realize this?
    3. Public or private tracker?

    Give me any tips or information that you could consider useful. As said previously, my knowledge is very limitted so feel free to help.

    best regard,
    mathieuasw
    Last edited by mathieuasw; June 12th, 2012 at 10:49 AM.


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  3. #2

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    First, I don't like your idea. Second, you gonna get caught and go to jail for a very long time for making a profit. Third, I don't think you can limit the download speed on a torrent. And finally why would anyone pay you for downloading when everyone is doing it for free.

    P.S. Password protected winrar, seriously.
    looking for: DB9

  4. #3

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    Spare me this kind of talk... I just need informative stuff here.
    I dont seek personal point of view of my idea.

  5. #4

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    ok, i don't post my "point of view" so here are your answers:

    1. Is this even possible? Yeah.
    2. Will I need to make multiple torrent for each file to be able to realize this? Yeah
    3. Public or private tracker? Private if you want money back.

    next time be more friendly...

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    It is possible, yes, but ultimately your idea will fail because your content can be easily downloaded for free from dozens of other sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleficare View Post
    It is possible, yes, but ultimately your idea will fail because your content can be easily downloaded for free from dozens of other sites.
    Sorry if I didnt seem friendly in my previous post, my main language aint english. I dont think this will fail because I actually posses rare anime file that can be hardly found at high speed. Some of them took me some weeks even months to get! I also did some file cutting and some modifying that I think user will find interest in.

    could you refer me a good torrent server application I could use?

    I know already torrentflux but I'm wondering if there's better alternative!

    thank you,
    mathieuasw

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathieuasw View Post

    So the question I am asking myself are the following :

    1. Is this even possible?
    2. Will I need to make multiple torrent for each file to be able to realize this?
    3. Public or private tracker?
    Even if it's possible, I don't think it will work at all. It looks like a very cumbersome system you want to put in place. Making money out of files (DDL?) is the badest idea since it's just what copyright owners are tracking the most.

    I'll add the fact that several anime oriented trackers already exist : bakaBT, AnimeBytes, MononokeBT (for french people). So compared to them, even if you have some rare material, your idea won't attract many people, too much restrictions in my opinion.

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    i don't think bittorrent protocol will be the best for the job..

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    I'm curious as to how having a password protected file will generate you profit. So the free user downloads a file, then has to download a password. Will it be like those kinds of sites were the password is behind a survey wall or just a massive amount of ads. Or will you have to pay for the password.

    Also the idea that you will upload files at slower speeds on other sites and then refer people to your site so they have to pay for higher speeds is just not right. Wont the staff at those sites ban you for spamming. And experienced torrent users wont fall for this. It will smell like a scam. Specially if the files are inside a rar, because people wont be able to tell if the file is legit until they are done downloading.

    This seems like to much trouble considering that the content can be found elsewhere. And no matter how rare your anime may be, unless its your own original creation I'm pretty sure other people out there could have it.

    1. Is this even possible?

    Yes I think it is, but it seems difficult to implement and a risky investment.

    2. Will I need to make multiple torrent for each file to be able to realize this?

    Yes. One will be password protected, one will be slow but no password, and one will be fast. I'm not sure how you will make a torrent slower and another one faster, it seems to me that even if your servers are slower or faster, the seeds are the ones that really determine the speed of a torrent.

    3. Public or private tracker?

    Maybe don't use torrents at all. Because you want to limit speed, and I feel this is difficult in a torrent, because you can't control the upload speed of the seeds and peers. Your idea seems more like the file "sharing" sites than torrent trackers.And remember file sharing websites are being attacked and taken down (like Megaupload) Thats why I mentioned this being risky. Read here 15 file-sharing sites like Megaupload that the Feds may target next | VentureBeat

    I'm not an expert on torrent trackers or anything. Still I hope my opinion is helpful. I have nothing against piracy, or people trying to make money. But those 2 really don't mix together unless you want to be in big trouble. Maybe just share your content, starting your own private tracker, and if it's really that rare and good, people will donate to you money.

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    1. Your way of making money by password protection is pretty vague... how are you going to manage so many passworded torrent files? The obvious is that you cannot have the same password for every torrent files. Sure they may go through the process, but they may also spread this only once. Also you need to consider the amount of disk space you will need to use because you have two types of torrents for each kind of anime (Password protected and no password)

    2. When you do file sharing, you need to consider those that will also "steal" from you. I'm sure it's not in your consideration at the moment.

    3. Free subscription then to guarantee 1:2 ratio doesn't work either. When it's a public tracker, ratio doesn't work because people will create multiple accounts. You also need to consider those that will be ratio cheaters.

    My suggestion would be to create a file hosting site if you need to offer such complexity. That's why Filehosting sites are offered. Your idea is more closer to such model.

    I'm not sure how many rare animes you have, but I'm pretty sure it can be requested on private trackers such as animebyts.

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