Thread: minimizing being caught

could you guys maybe throw out some tips for minimizing your chances of getting caught?

There have been a lot of recent threads on this subject. So I'm not going to do much more than point a few of them out for you. Although it's important, this subject is getting thrashed to death. In short get a seedbox, use https and sftp. If your paranoia level is extra high, then only access your seedbox via VPN and seek providers that don't collect personal info.


I need help with secure torrenting
http://www.torrent-invites.com/resol...-security.html
Pay or else piracy sue. In need of advice.
Are the people getting sued for p2p using public or private trackers?
Safe seedbox country locations? Germany?





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i know using seedbox and VPN is the best way to torrent
but if i want to seed and download a lot of things from my home connection
what can i do?
is that safe to only use VPN as protection?

Originally Posted by ForestAngel

i know using seedbox and VPN is the best way to torrent
but if i want to seed and download a lot of things from my home connection
what can i do?
is that safe to only use VPN as protection?

No that is not enough to 'protect' you IMO. Sure you can use only private trackers, encryption & vpn. And these incremental steps do help make it somewhat harder to establish a chain of evidence. If you are lucky it *might* be enough that someone might move on to easier targets. But if you seed or download from home it's still fairly easy to establish a path between the content and your identity. Or at least your physical location, which is likely sufficient. All they have to do is request records or logs from your ISP And a lot of ISPs will provide those without a subpoena.

Trying to trace a path through a seedbox intermediary is much harder. And if you use a vpn to access the seedbox and providers that don't collect personal information and perhaps vendors in different countries.. then establishing who is on the other end of the torrent becomes quite arduous; orders of magnitude harder than anything that you could do to 'protect' yourself at home. There really is no comparison. You assume considerable risk if you seed from home. At least in terms of how easy it would be to serve you with a demand letter or subpoena, should anyone try to do that.





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If you plan to torrent using a VPN, you should talk to your trackers first, particularly if your VPN server is offshore.

Originally Posted by copper

No that is not enough to 'protect' you IMO. Sure you can .....

so if i want to be safe, there is no way i can seed a lot of things from home?
am i right?

Originally Posted by ForestAngel

so if i want to be safe, there is no way i can seed a lot of things from home?
am i right?

You are right. I don't know of any way to seed safely from home.

Now before a flood of people start posting "I've always seeded from home and never had a problem.." Obviously most people do not get demand letters. But you've seen news items and forum posts here showing that it does happen to some people. Several hundred thousand in the U.S. and several hundred thousand in Germany, for example. And it's always those who torrent from home. You should use "forced encryption in your torrent client and https, if your tracker supports it and stay away from public trackers. It would also be useful if you could arrange to live somewhere other than the U.S. or Germany. All of these things will reduce your exposure a bit. Perhaps enough to avoid a demand letter.

But in the end, a $15 seedbox (preferably with a cheap/free vpn, private trackers, https, sftp, etc) is just so much more effective.






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If you don't want to get a seedbox, then get Vuze with an i-Blocklist level 1. Don't download from any public trackers and stick with smaller private trackers (less than 25k members). Try to minimize your connections when downloading too. Good luck.

Originally Posted by skiier

If you don't want to get a seedbox, then get Vuze with an i-Blocklist level 1. Don't download from any public trackers and stick with smaller private trackers (less than 25k members). Try to minimize your connections when downloading too. Good luck.

is there so much difference between trackers from different countries
for example torrent from Chinese and Russian trackers will be safer than torrent from TL and SCC?
or there will be no difference