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    Now, I get the general gist of the torrenting scene.
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    In private trackers, I understand that you want the highest ratio as possible, but in the end, that just means your constantly downloading off seedboxes.
    While it being great for uploading and downloading, a lot of the time, I feel the actual content doesn't get watched/used.
    For any regular person (who would download and use the content because they want it), joining a private torrent site is requires quite a lot of effort (if they have poor upload speed <100 kb/s) or they would have to leave their computer on 24/7.

    In the end you just get a loop. Seedboxes downloading off other seedboxes, just to increase their ratio on sites.

    What are your thoughts on this? Am I totally wrong? Is the main usage of a private tracker is that you know any torrent is likely to be seeded and seeded well, no matter how old? Or do people who use seedboxes not just use it to boost their ratio, and download the content through ftp?



    (I based this from was watching utorrent download and upload last night, seeing mostly seedbox named peers)


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    Well, I wouldn't agree, since your threads are very interesting I'm taking my time off to reply here.
    People who have social issues download and upload torrents with seedboxes just to benefit with high ratio which honestly doesn't mean shit. It's just complexes..to be honest, i fear the people who have no selfrespect!
    If higher ratio means who has bigger e-penis than GTFO private trackers, that isn't the point.
    The point is to contribute to tracker as much as you benefit from it, and even exceed that.
    Having seedbox, at least in my case is to upload what i downloaded so other people can download at greater speeds, not to have higher ratio etc.
    If I can keep what i downloaded for 1 year, well...I will keep it and seed it, but not to grow my e-penis, but to help others.
    Yesterday I recived PM from my tracker that someone wants to download file I have and that there are no seeders.
    Man, i have to tell you, i felt so bad i didn't have that files anymore...
    Well, that's it from me, I hope I didn't offend anyone, if I did..well...

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    My biggest complaint of private trackers is this: I understand and appreciate the desire to be exclusive, protecting members from outside threats and leechers. However, what I have noticed, and find to be troubling, is that often private exclusive trackers have less seeders and therefor slower download speeds than less exclusive trackers.

    I can get the same files on IPT as I can on other more exclusive trackers in half the time. It seems to me that if it's going to be hard to get in, there should also be enough seeders that files download quickly.

    Bottom line; if you get access to an exclusive hard to enter tracker, you should do your part and try to seed as many files as you reasonably can, to help the rest of the community. Too many people get into a private tracker and then forget about everyone but themselves, doing just enough to not get banned, instead of going that extra mile to help the others in the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CerealKLLH View Post
    Well, I wouldn't agree, since your threads are very interesting I'm taking my time off to reply here.
    People who have social issues download and upload torrents with seedboxes just to benefit with high ratio which honestly doesn't mean shit. It's just complexes..to be honest, i fear the people who have no selfrespect!
    If higher ratio means who has bigger e-penis than GTFO private trackers, that isn't the point.
    The point is to contribute to tracker as much as you benefit from it, and even exceed that.
    Having seedbox, at least in my case is to upload what i downloaded so other people can download at greater speeds, not to have higher ratio etc.
    If I can keep what i downloaded for 1 year, well...I will keep it and seed it, but not to grow my e-penis, but to help others.
    Yesterday I recived PM from my tracker that someone wants to download file I have and that there are no seeders.
    Man, i have to tell you, i felt so bad i didn't have that files anymore...
    Well, that's it from me, I hope I didn't offend anyone, if I did..well...
    Thanks for the reply.
    The only problem with what you wrote, is that trackers do penalise low ratios. Trying to seed on a private tracker can be/will be hard if you have a low upload speed.
    Even if your intentions are good, the amount of people downloading could diminish to very few within hours, and you've only managed to upload 10% of what you just downloaded.
    Tell me if I'm wrong :P

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    You'r not wrong of course, I didn't exactly say that people with low download speeds are better, I was just talking about people who have seedboxes and for what purpose they use them.
    When I said that ratio doesn't mean shit i meant that ratio should be above 1.0, everything above has no real meaning except maybe popularity of some kind.
    But aiming at insanely high ratio just to get some sort of "respect" is just ridiculous, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CerealKLLH View Post
    You'r not wrong of course, I didn't exactly say that people with low download speeds are better, I was just talking about people who have seedboxes and for what purpose they use them.
    When I said that ratio doesn't mean shit i meant that ratio should be above 1.0, everything above has no real meaning except maybe popularity of some kind.
    But aiming at insanely high ratio just to get some sort of "respect" is just ridiculous, in my opinion.
    I agree with you there :)
    Just simply helping out should be enough.

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    This topic is so cereal. (see what I did there)

    I also agree though that using a ratio simply as a bragging right is childish. The point of a high ratio is to show that you care about helping the community, not for anything else.

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    First post, haha.

    I remember my OiNk days... A lot of good stuff there, but somehow I had difficulty in maintaining a good ratio (beyond 1.5 or so). So for me it was all about self-control, patience and strategy - what to seed, what to download.
    Oh, and helping the community: sharing is caring, no?

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    The thing about certain private trackers is that they have niche personal contents you can't get elsewhere. Having a seedbox helps to offload the personal bandwidth so you can be productive using it for other purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CerealGOAT View Post
    In private trackers, I understand that you want the highest ratio as possible, but in the end, that just means your constantly downloading off seedboxes.
    While it being great for uploading and downloading, a lot of the time, I feel the actual content doesn't get watched/used.
    I can't speak for every seedboxer, but I would think that most of them use their boxes to help the community out and get fast speeds when a torrent first gets launched. When I Upload, it is typically first downloaded by seedboxers that have auto-DL scripts running. The file uploads as fast as my UL bandwidth allows. Once the seedboxers have it, then the rest of the community gets lightning fast downloads, much faster than I could possibly provide (short of getting a seedbox myself anyway). So if you say the content doesn't get watched, you may be right. But if you say it does not get used, I would beg to differ on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jschro14 View Post
    what I have noticed, and find to be troubling, is that often private exclusive trackers have less seeders and therefor slower download speeds than less exclusive trackers.
    I disagree. For the most part, I have noticed that my most exclusive trackers fewer seeders, but more dedicated seeders with faster connections. I have seen releases that are months old only have 1-2 seeders and yet still get very fast downloads.

    Quote Originally Posted by CerealGOAT View Post
    Trying to seed on a private tracker can be/will be hard if you have a low upload speed.
    Even if your intentions are good, the amount of people downloading could diminish to very few within hours, and you've only managed to upload 10% of what you just downloaded.
    This I agree with. The more exclusive a site is, the fewer people there are to leech, meaning the average non-seedboxer has to work that much harder to maintain a good ratio. That said, there are ways around this for those versed in cross-seeding.

    As far as people getting their ratios up because they feel it gives them more respect... well maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but either way I'm still appreciative that they are seeding files that I may at some point want to download.

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