Magic The Gathering Thread

[Cerberusj]

Nice, it was a bit complicated, but fun. I started to play it on the PC, but it was never as good. Now I don't have time for games... :-(

Well there are 2 versions worth to play on a PC, Wizards of the Coast released an old version of the game back in 1995 (i think, give or take a year) and that had Shandalar in it, sort of an adventure mode. It's long abandoned by now but alot of fans Modded it so new cards could be added and new rules, these mods are packed and i think they even run stand alone without any installer.

The other one i linked to Allice earlier, Wagic The Homebrew (or WTH), i used to be a Dev there aswell but i kind of got sidetracked and didn't really pick it up again afterwards but the project continued none the less. It started as a Sony PSP version off the game in which you could play against A.I. (Computers) but quickly formed into a PC and Linux version because of populair demand. You can buy boosters in game, build decks, play text based campaigns etc. etc.
It's actually really good, definatly if you want to get started again because easy mode works perfectly (there are no tutorials on Magic itself in it though but the card text kind of explains it and the system auto blocks most illegal targets etc/), the only thing is that you don't have card images when you download it, you have to manually add it by downloading the full packs from the forum (or downloading a premade thing from the piratebay or any other public tracker).



The only things it didn't do at the time of my departure was follow the exact tournement card resolving rules (as in you play a spell, your opponent does aswell, some abilites activate and you play something again), they didn't 100% follow the rules all the time but that was because of the semi-flexible engine not being bendable enough. Good chance they solved 99% of it yet i highly doubt they added the extreme tournament rules already (that's hard to even remember so just imagine how hard it is to code them correctly :P).

Link: Wagic · Wololo.net

(@Allice check out that link instead, the one i gave you earlier was an outdated version).

I'm also looking into online versions at the moment, we could play online by exchanging info in the IRC channel and, if the TI MTG community grows, maybe host a tournament giving away a VIP/Temp Seedbox /Whatever to the people in 1st place and the runner ups.

Pretty much depends on what i can find, how many people would enjoy playing against each other and ofcourse if I can find sponsors ^_^

[TechKwonDo]

I played MTG a ton in HS/College and at one point had probably 4 full sets of third addition, a set of antiquities, a set of arabian nights, a set of legends, 2-3 sets of the dark, 4-5 sets of whatever the merfolk expansion was called, a full set of moxen, black lotus, and every valuabe 1st edition card that they stopped printing along with probably 200+ multilands.

I sold all of this for about four grand when I quit playing Magic and thought I got a pretty sweet deal because I was scared they were going to start reprinting a lot of the valuable cards.

I don't even want to know what that would be worth now, but I have to figure somewhere between 50-100k. Ouch. Granted, I only paid about 1k for everything, so it was still a pretty sweet deal at the time, but still..... ouch.

[mrnewbie]

Well there are 2 versions worth to play on a PC, Wizards of the Coast released an old version of the game back in 1995 (i think, give or take a year) and that had Shandalar in it, sort of an adventure mode. It's long abandoned by now but alot of fans Modded it so new cards could be added and new rules, these mods are packed and i think they even run stand alone without any installer.

That was the one, date sounds about right.

[Cerberusj]

I played MTG a ton in HS/College and at one point had probably 4 full sets of third addition, a set of antiquities, a set of arabian nights, a set of legends, 2-3 sets of the dark, 4-5 sets of whatever the merfolk expansion was called, a full set of moxen, black lotus, and every valuabe 1st edition card that they stopped printing along with probably 200+ multilands.

I sold all of this for about four grand when I quit playing Magic and thought I got a pretty sweet deal because I was scared they were going to start reprinting a lot of the valuable cards.

I don't even want to know what that would be worth now, but I have to figure somewhere between 50-100k. Ouch. Granted, I only paid about 1k for everything, so it was still a pretty sweet deal at the time, but still..... ouch.

Uhmmm yeah i think it's a bit underpriced :P I definatly would have wanted the moxies, there are so many fake ones around now a days *sigh*, i've found some people selling boosters for about 300+ bucks each (prices fluctuate ofcourse). Black lotus does seem to stay around the 500-1000 bucks depending on the quality of the card.

That was the one, date sounds about right.

It's freely (and yes legally! :P) downloadable if you google it, there are tons of mods or just plain windows xp/vista/7 patches available, even unmodded i still love that game, it looks like crap but that's the charm of it ^_^

[mrnewbie]

It's freely (and yes legally! :P) downloadable if you google it, there are tons of mods or just plain windows xp/vista/7 patches available, even unmodded i still love that game, it looks like crap but that's the charm of it ^_^

I don't know I remember feeling that the PC version took something away from the Card Game, a bit like Monopoly, which I dislike in electronic form.
Could start a new thread: are classic games better in original or eForm?

[Cerberusj]

I don't know I remember feeling that the PC version took something away from the Card Game, a bit like Monopoly, which I dislike in electronic form.
Could start a new thread: are classic games better in original or eForm?

You are right though, mainly because it lacks social interaction. I've never played Dungeons and dragons IRL but i did read all the books, i did play the game and it kiiiinda sucked yet i have the idea it can be alot of fun playing it on a board in a small social group.

The plus side of a PC version is that you can test decks you want to create/buy cards for if need/etc. and if you take the original online game, it can link you to someone to play with at any time of the day.
Might be fun playing T-I members on a free version just for lulz, it's better then a trivia game (which can be fun from time to time aswell) :P
Plus introducing people to the game is never a bad thing, i must say that if you learn to play strategic games and learn how to actually be good at it by gaining both knowledge and insight it definatly stimulates the basic level of insight you use at every aspect of your life, it's the same with things like chess, people learn to think steps ahead and automaticly apply it IRL :).

[newguy]

wow talk about blast from the past!
i haven't played this for at least 10 years. i think i stopped playing when 5th was coming out..
i think there's quite a few players in my area but i dont have the time nor inclination to start this again. i remember it turning out to be quite a money black hole. everytime i go to a comicon or hobby show i'll check out the cards and am amazed by all the new types and abilities that keep coming out. the rules must be at least a small manual by now =)

i think i still have an iso of the mtg pc games when it came out

[Cerberusj]

wow talk about blast from the past!
i haven't played this for at least 10 years. i think i stopped playing when 5th was coming out..
i think there's quite a few players in my area but i dont have the time nor inclination to start this again. i remember it turning out to be quite a money black hole. everytime i go to a comicon or hobby show i'll check out the cards and am amazed by all the new types and abilities that keep coming out. the rules must be at least a small manual by now =)

i think i still have an iso of the mtg pc games when it came out

I wouldn't really say"small" manual :P

https://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Ar...?x=magic/rules

All the rulebooks, basic/comprehenvisive/tournament/specific cardtype/ban and restricted lists.

[newguy]

I wouldn't really say"small" manual :P

https://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Ar...?x=magic/rules

All the rulebooks, basic/comprehenvisive/tournament/specific cardtype/ban and restricted lists.

jaysus-all-mitee, you weren't kidding. the pdf is 196 pages long!
i've read tax manuals that were shorter (and probably more interesting too=)

[Cerberusj]

jaysus-all-mitee, you weren't kidding. the pdf is 196 pages long!
i've read tax manuals that were shorter (and probably more interesting too=)

Haha yeah they are very detailed, you just need to know a little bit of it since referee's at tournaments watch every single move you make, it's actually a paying job to referee last time i checked ^_^.

If you take the Resolve rule for instance that's alot to remember (which card played or ability played in a specific order resolves first because it has priority), i actually know quite alot of it but i'm not even close to a referee level haha plus that i have no clue about new rules since Rise of the Eldrazi.

The basic thing most people do on smaller tournaments (not hosted by WoTC) is have a printed version (or tablet/ereader with the PDF on it) with them so they can instantly check if something is correct or incorrect :P.

In normal fun play it seriously doesn't matter though haha i've seen so many different play styles, most of them not even close to the original rules.