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    Default The biggest mistake of humanity about extraterrestrial life

    is to assume that they are a biological beings like us, we automatically assume that they are biological beings that travel the universe. None of the videos, pictures about ufos, has been proven as extraterrestrial spacecrafts, but we assume that those UFOS are extraterrestrial.

    We know that there is extraterrestrial life out there, you do not need proof for this, is common sense.
    The real problem comes here, the nearest star is alpha centauri, it would take 5 years at the speed of light to reach that star, the only technology that extraterrestrials are using would have to do with traveling at the speed of light or travelling by bending space and time, like a black hole or warp travel.

    Problem is that a biological being would be destroyed by traveling at the speed of light, not only that, all the energy required to travel at such speed would incinerate the beings inside ships, any biological being would be destroyed by traveling through time or warp travel, a biological body would not be able to stand these kinds of travels

    Maybe extraterrestrials are some type of artificial intelligent beings, this would allow them to be completely unaffected by the energy required to travel at such speeds or allows them to travel through time.

    Maybe they are biological beings that send artificial intelligence inside their ships, to explore the universe just like we send robots to explore the universe for us, the only difference is that their robots are as intelligent if not more intelligent than us.



    In retrospect I am just assuming too but I can't be the only one who believes that aliens don't have to be creatures similar to us?
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    there`s only a dimension world, not space travel, there`s a reason as media and organisations keep bombarding people with space images.

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    This is an awesome thread, I love reading about such discussions. I like your idea about UFO's not being biological and that they may send AI on the saucers. Pretty insane. Good cool on that

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    Yeah, there was an X-Files episode where they were talking about exactly this. Most likely the aliens (if they exist) would send here something similar to the bugs in the earth with an advanced AI.

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    they are not aliens or bugs! they are called reptilian, google it. first you need to SEE or open your EYES or watch V series 45% of what you see / hear in the tv series are the truth! the show executives decided to cut the plug! wonder why so soon?

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    There are only 2 known elements that can base life. Carbon based lifeforms like us, anything mushy. Or silicon based lifeforms. In theory it is possible that another race could have evolved to a point of designing silicon life that does not age or die, and using artificial means such as computers to give those lifeforms memory, learning ability etc while the orginal carbon based lifeforms have died off long ago. If space travel is such a long journey between stars this would seem logical to me. In which case the alien we meet may be nothing but a messenger.

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    We have developed too quickly and also debris on the environment.

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    Who is to say that all life as we know it did not originate in some extraterrestrial space, like another planet, asteroid, meteor. There is a theory that all biological life that we know of was brought about from Mars. If you know your stuff about astronomy, you know that in operation stardust, we gathered debris from a Martian asteroid, and shot it down to earth to be examined, and the results were astounding. They found a bunch of organic compounds like amino acids, these proteins are essential for biological life.

    That being said, I have come to the realization that, really, what are the chances that life, our life, is simply a product of earth and earth alone? To think that now seems absurd. Of course Earth serves as the perfect petri dish for life to form from rudimentary life-supporting compounds, (carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, climate, stability, lunar tide), but imagine that there were organic compounds on some distant or close planet, millions of years ago, and a comet impacted said planet, shot debris into orbit, on a collision course for Earth.

    When that debris finally gets to Earth, complete with complex protiens, falls into the ocean, where it is churned for a few million years by the tides and the lunar orbit. Eventually a few get trapped in the little holes and crevices in the shore rocks, where they are in a perfect position for life to actually form. Prokaryotes, Bacteria, Eukaryotes, all this is possible once all the right stuff gets trapped in one place, under the right conditions, (which would have to be perfect, or we wouldn't be here to talk about it). It seems to me that we are the product of millions of years of evolution of interplanetary exchange of matter.

    THAT BEING SAID:

    In regard to the original topic, I must say I agree that it's not unlikely for that to be the case. Check out Neil Degrasse Tyson talk about this matter, and he is one of the smartest men in the world, and not just in my opinion!

    Neil degrasse Tyson Alien vs. Human Intelligence - YouTube

    Amazing man. I recommend checking out his other videos if youre into this kind of thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XFlare View Post
    There are only 2 known elements that can base life. Carbon based lifeforms like us, anything mushy. Or silicon based lifeforms. In theory it is possible that another race could have evolved to a point of designing silicon life that does not age or die, and using artificial means such as computers to give those lifeforms memory, learning ability etc while the orginal carbon based lifeforms have died off long ago. If space travel is such a long journey between stars this would seem logical to me. In which case the alien we meet may be nothing but a messenger.
    Exactly. But like you said, there are only 2 known elements that can support life. Just recently, two new elements were created synthetically and are now going to be added to the periodic table of elements. I read about a year ago that there is this massive "cannon" that is firing a modified version of h20 into the universe as well. There is talk that water originated there. This universe is very young and I believe that we know very little.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bango View Post
    Who is to say that all life as we know it did not originate in some extraterrestrial space, like another planet, asteroid, meteor. There is a theory that all biological life that we know of was brought about from Mars. If you know your stuff about astronomy, you know that in operation stardust, we gathered debris from a Martian asteroid, and shot it down to earth to be examined, and the results were astounding. They found a bunch of organic compounds like amino acids, these proteins are essential for biological life.

    That being said, I have come to the realization that, really, what are the chances that life, our life, is simply a product of earth and earth alone? To think that now seems absurd. Of course Earth serves as the perfect petri dish for life to form from rudimentary life-supporting compounds, (carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, climate, stability, lunar tide), but imagine that there were organic compounds on some distant or close planet, millions of years ago, and a comet impacted said planet, shot debris into orbit, on a collision course for Earth.

    When that debris finally gets to Earth, complete with complex protiens, falls into the ocean, where it is churned for a few million years by the tides and the lunar orbit. Eventually a few get trapped in the little holes and crevices in the shore rocks, where they are in a perfect position for life to actually form. Prokaryotes, Bacteria, Eukaryotes, all this is possible once all the right stuff gets trapped in one place, under the right conditions, (which would have to be perfect, or we wouldn't be here to talk about it). It seems to me that we are the product of millions of years of evolution of interplanetary exchange of matter.

    THAT BEING SAID:

    In regard to the original topic, I must say I agree that it's not unlikely for that to be the case. Check out Neil Degrasse Tyson talk about this matter, and he is one of the smartest men in the world, and not just in my opinion!

    Neil degrasse Tyson Alien vs. Human Intelligence - YouTube

    Amazing man. I recommend checking out his other videos if youre into this kind of thing!
    Funny you mention him because I am a big fan of the guy. He's hilarious and he has become a meme if you keep up with internet shenanigans so he's more famous online. If you think about how fast the human race has progressed in the fast 70 years, it seems like its a simple matter of time until we find out more about the universe.

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    You mention time in both of your answers like time is a constant. In fact, time is relative. You can say our universe is young or old, but it all depends on perspective. Like the fractal, you can only order its magnitude in ratio form, meaning you need to have something to grasp it with, some comparison. Time isn't even a constant from varying velocities. Time goes slower for you the faster you go. Relatively, it seems the same, but 1 day cruising at .99c is actually about a year "standing "still."

    If you're judging human intellect by the amount of time that higher-functioning humanity has been around to learn new things, then yes, the graph is exponential in what we have learned. But compared to the "beginning" of time, itself, even judging recorded history isn't even a blip on the radar. Meaning as much as our ego takes from this life, in the grand scheme of things it is meaningless and fleeting. Any being, bound by time, is infinitely constricted in its capacity for knowledge. As much as we have improved in writing, video sharing, communication in general, all of our offspring have to relearn what our ancestors have already learned, and eventually there will be a time when no one is able to learn anything new in their entire lifespan, because they spent the whole (80? 200?) years learning things that have already been learned. Nothing besides instinct is intrinsic to the human being.

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