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    Default Microsoft urges Windows users to shut down Safari

    Responses from Apple and Microsoft typical of their rivalry and different approaches to security

    In an unusual move, Microsoft on Friday warned Windows users to swear off Apple 's Safari Web browser until a patch is available that plugs holes that could let attackers to compromise computers.

    One security researcher noted that Microsoft's public warning -- and Apple's silence on the subject -- are typical for the two rivals and illustrate their different approaches to security.

    Friday, the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC) issued a security advisory for what it called a "blended threat" caused by combination of a bug in Apple's Safari Web browser and a vulnerability in how Windows XP and Windows Vista handle executable files placed on the desktop.

    "Microsoft is investigating new public reports of a blended threat that allows remote code execution on all supported versions of Windows XP and Windows Vista when Apple's Safari for Windows has been installed," said the advisory.

    The Safari bug Microsoft referred to is the same one disclosed two weeks ago by researcher Nitesh Dhanjani, which Apple declined to treat as a security issue, said Andrew Storms, director of security operations at nCircle Network Security Inc. "Clearly, that's what they're talking about," said Storms.

    In mid-May, Dhanjani posted information about what he dubbed a "carpet bomb" attack made possible because Safari lacks an option to require a user's permission to download a file. Attackers, Dhanjani claimed, could populate a malicious site with rogue code that Safari would automatically download to the desktop.

    Apple told Dhanjani that it did not consider the problem a security issue, but might fix it in a future Safari update. The next week, the anti-malware group Stopbadware.org criticized Apple for that position. "We encourage Apple to reconsider its stance and treat this as the security issue that it is," said the group in a statement May 19.

    Then on Friday, Microsoft also fingered Safari as a problem. "Restrict use of Safari as a Web browser until an appropriate update is available from Microsoft and/or Apple," the company told users in the advisory.

    But Microsoft also admitted that a successful attack would require not only leveraging the Safari bug, but also exploiting a vulnerability in its own software. "A combination of the default download location in Safari and how the Windows desktop handles executables creates a blended threat in which files may be downloaded to a user's machine without prompting, allowing them to be executed," said Microsoft.

    In the advisory, Microsoft called out Windows XP -- including SP3, the newest service pack -- and Windows Vista as vulnerable, as well as Internet Explorer (IE) 6 and Internet Explorer 7.

    Microsoft, however, did not delve into details of the Windows and/or IE vulnerabilities that could be combined with the Safari bug to hack PCs.

    Aviv Raff, an Israeli security research, filled in some of the blanks. On Saturday, Raff said that a vulnerability in IE he had reported more than a year ago was the Microsoft side of the blended threat. "The combined attack requires IE," Raff said in a e-mail, answering questions about the source of the Windows-side flaw.

    He would not, however, get specific about the vulnerability. In a post to his own blog earlier Saturday, Raff said he would not publicly disclose any details until Microsoft or Apple patched the problem.



    But he did ding Microsoft for telling users that they could prevent attacks by changing the default download location for files retrieved using Safari. "I can only say that Microsoft's suggestion for a workaround is not enough," said Raff in his blog post. "There are other vulnerabilities which can be combined with the Safari vulnerability to execute code," he added in the e-mail.

    In the end, Raff's best advice was similar to Microsoft's: "The current best solution is to stop using Safari until Apple fixes their vulnerability," he wrote on his blog. "Even if Microsoft fixes their vulnerability, Safari users will still be vulnerable."

    Odd though it is to see Microsoft issue an advisory that calls out software not of its making, the incident is a good example of the contrast between Microsoft's and Apple's approaches to security disclosures, said nCircle's Storms.

    "It's not very surprising to see Microsoft in the forefront here," he said. "They're known to issue advisories without having all the information [about a vulnerability] and without a patch. Apple, on the other hand, is completely different. Until they release a patch, they say nothing, and when they patch, it's a complete surprise.

    "It's two different ways to handle it," said Storms, explaining that the vastly different approaches stems from their core customer base. "Microsoft has really embraced the enterprise, and decided that disclosure and a regular patch schedule is what the enterprise needs to support and maintain its products.

    "Apple, on the other hand, appeals to consumers, and believes that for the majority of consumers, issuing an advisory without a patch would probably just create FUD [fear, uncertainty and doubt]," Storms concluded.

    As Storms noted, Apple has remained silent on the Safari carpet bomb problem. Last week, it did not respond to a request for comment on its security team's decision against adding a user-approval option to Safari. The company was not available Saturday.

    Microsoft did say that it was working with its rival, however. "[We] are working with our colleagues at Apple to investigate the issue," said Tim Rains, a product manager in Microsoft's malware protection center, in a post to the MSRC blog.

    No timetable has been set by Microsoft for patching its software to block combined Safari-IE attacks. As it often does in security advisories, the company only said that it may issue a patch.


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    Safari wasn't all that anyway.....

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    Safari is ahhh... CRAP.

    Mac's are for people who can't afford PC's.

    Yeah... I don't like Mac's

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    Firefox is better anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattinahat View Post
    Safari is ahhh... CRAP.

    Mac's are for people who can't afford PC's.

    Yeah... I don't like Mac's
    Lol macs are more expensive than most pcs.

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    Apple really should consider giving out the Apple OS to vendors to sell for them, like Dell and HP. Prices would go down a lot.

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    I can't see Apple ever using Dell or HP - that just not Job's vision!

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    Grrrr, Apple.

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    Microsoft - just the guys I trust to give me security advice...

    I think they had Seinfeld doing Safari testing to finish our his contract when the commercials went sideways... (and Kramer was the project manager)

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    Security regarding Crapple & Microsh**.... I'm defo gonna take this seriously. not.

    I would never take security advice from the 2 companies that have both made insecure, crap OSs.

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