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    Quote Originally Posted by s2cuts View Post
    Well let me be clear, the topic is Darwin's theory of evolution, and that my friend is a lock. Some things are more speculative, but evolution is not.
    Nothing is and cannot be "a lock". Do forgive me for saying this but I personally think that with such attitude you wouldn't make a good scientist. Scientists are supposed to question everything, to move boundaries of human knowledge, if they believed that something is "a lock" humankind would be even less advanced then it currently is. And by saying that Darwin's theory of evolution is a lock (which it most certainly isn't) you are becoming no less close minded then people you are so gleefully attacking, you are becoming the polar opposite of people who are claiming that world was created in six days because it says so in a book. You are becoming a fundamentalist darwinist, unwilling to even consider the possibility that Darwin was also merely a human and could have make mistakes and be wrong as easily as can you and me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamelessOne View Post
    ...you are becoming the polar opposite of people who are claiming that world was created in six days because it says so in a book. You are becoming a fundamentalist darwinist, unwilling to even consider the possibility that Darwin was also merely a human and could have make mistakes and be wrong as easily as can you and me.
    lol, no dude. You are quite simply wrong. I use the betting slang "lock" to imply that if you could bet on Evolution being right vs any other explanation for how life developed on the planet Earth (or anywhere else for that matter), you should take the bet because it's easy money. Of course, my contention implies NOT that the probability of such an outcome is absolute, but that it is nearly so. I don't think that was lost on anyone but you. And to take it a step further, since you've entered scientist into the argument, if you sat and had a chat with any reputable scientist they would agree that Evolution is a "lock". Take, oh, Francis Collins, just to make my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by NamelessOne View Post
    ...by saying that Darwin's theory of evolution is a lock (which it most certainly isn't)...
    Your comments here seem to hint that you really don't have a clue as to how much evidence exists in support of Darwin's theory of Evolution, or how foundational it is in fields such as medicine or pharmacology. But if you want to insist that Evolution "certainly isn't" the only reasonable explanation for our existence, or that there is clearly something deficient about Evolution, then please tell us your thoughts.
    Last edited by s2cuts; March 6th, 2010 at 02:28 PM.
    "I have called this principle, by which each slight variation, if useful, is preserved, by the term of Natural Selection."
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    I completely forgot about this.

    Quote Originally Posted by s2cuts View Post
    lol, no dude. You are quite simply wrong. I use the betting slang "lock" to imply that if you could bet on Evolution being right vs any other explanation for how life developed on the planet Earth (or anywhere else for that matter), you should take the bet because it's easy money. Of course, my contention implies NOT that the probability of such an outcome is absolute, but that it is nearly so. I don't think that was lost on anyone but you. And to take it a step further, since you've entered scientist into the argument, if you sat and had a chat with any reputable scientist they would agree that Evolution is a "lock". Take, oh, Francis Collins, just to make my point.
    I'm sorry I misunderstood you, but you see I'm not a native English speaker and thus, unfortunately, I'm not really good with it's "betting slang", so that's why your statement was "lost on me".

    And to take it a step further, since you've entered scientist into the argument, if you sat and had a chat with any reputable scientist they would agree that Evolution is a "lock". Take, oh, Francis Collins, just to make my point
    That isn't true and you know it. There would be plenty of scientists that could be objectively called reputable who wouldn't jump to conclusions as fast as some others do, and the only problem is that you might consider them not to be reputable only because they have a different view on the problem at hands.

    Your comments here seem to hint that you really don't have a clue as to how much evidence exists in support of Darwin's theory of Evolution, or how foundational it is in fields such as medicine or pharmacology. But if you want to insist that Evolution "certainly isn't" the only reasonable explanation for our existence, or that there is clearly something deficient about Evolution, then please tell us your thoughts.
    Let's make one thing clear, I'm not trying to challenge the theory of evolution, after all even the Catholic Church, for example, accepts the theory of evolution as we know it today, I'm simply trying to state what to me seems as obvious, and that's the fact that human knowledge and understanding of things had changed during times and I cannot know for certain that sometime in future people won't find a different explanation and evidence which would refute those evidence we currently take for granted, after all theory of evolution isn't perfect and there are still things it cannot explain sufficiently. Of course there is far more likely possibility that theory of evolution (possibly with some minor or major tweaks) will continue to be considered the right answer on the question of the beginning of the humankind.
    Last edited by NamelessOne; March 14th, 2010 at 06:23 AM.

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