Thread: Global Warming Opinions

What are your views on Global Warming? I find it a very Sensitive matter and i think that it would be really unwise for us to not take action, We have to save the future, Take certain precautions.
Global warming is a very big issue and I think it would be very wise on our part to do all we can.. The polar ice is melting and the polar bear is in trouble. A hotter planet implies great floods, rampant fires, extreme climatic changes, food shortages and maybe shorter life span, etc. Maybe we cannot eliminate it altogether but what about helping curb global warming. Well, I don't think curbing global warming will bankrupt the economy... we can curb global warming at home, at work places, in the air or even at sea, etc...
In my opinion its a huge problem and all the countries in the world will have to undertake immediate efforts collectively to fight global warming. The scenario is dire with excess of greenhouse gasses, CO2, methane in the air. This alters and pollutes waters and causes oceans/rivers to flood.
Our generation has seen lot of abuse done to our mother Earth. In just about 100 years or less, mankind has almost certainly destroyed all life-forms by greed and corrupt practices. So many nuclear explosions, so much perishing of jungles to make huge concrete cities, so much hatred and crimes, wars, etc.
It is not a new phenomenon, just a continuation of the ill-effects. The increasing natural calamities that we are witnessing now is the beginning of the end... what heritage we are leaving behind for our future generations... will there be any future generation? Nature is hitting back hard...
What are your opinions on global warming?

Can't say that I'm actively fighting against global warming, but I usually just walk whenever I go instead of driving a car.

I'm sure a way will be found for the global warming to be stopped altogether... I mean, the scientific advances will probably be most impressive. 80 years ago people would laugh at you if you said the Earth will be warmed up because of the factories and cars, but you see where that got us. If we (our generation) doesn't stop it, then I guess we can all just say "Oh well, let those guys in year 2120 deal with it"

I personally am not entirely convinced about this whole global warming thing. I think it's psuedoscience.

What's the deal with this Copenhagen Treaty thing?

I have read plenty of articles from scientists and environmentalists. There's a great article I recently read from the October issue of "The Walrus" Magazine, titled: "The Age of Breathing Underwater" by Chris Turner. He explains the plight of Australia's Great Barrier Reef.

I'll write an excerpt from it here:

Australia's Great Barrier Reef, more than 25 million years in the making, is "an icon [of] primordial wilderness," says Dr. Vernon--it is the greatest structure created by life on earth. The idea that it might be mortally threatened within the span of a generation or two he would have once considered preposterous.

"I was wrong," he says.

Twin assailants, both creatures of climate change, threaten the reef and oceans more generally. The lesser of these is the warming of the water, which turns the single-celled algae on which corals rely or their sustenance toxic, compelling the coral to expel them and probably die--the event known as coral bleaching--or to keep them and certainly die.

The worst bleaching events of history will become commonplace by 2030, says Dr. Vernon, and by 2050, "The only corals left alive will be those in refuges on deep outer slopes of reefs. The rest will be unrecognisable--a bacterial slime, devoid of life."

The even greater threat is ocean acidification--the dissolving of carbon dioxide into the sea, forming weak carbonic acid. This is the climate change frontier to which science is swinging [with] increasing focus, as alarm grows at the threat it poses to marine ecosystems and to human food supplies and economies.

From The Polar Ice Caps to the Great Barrier Reef. It isn't just one thing we need to change.

Well sadly global warming became political, now people will think twice about it.
First you have Al Gore, former president of the US (oh sorry he never got there, I forgot, that should have made him a good guy) going to all nations in the world (by plane, car, with heavy, tight and contaminating security) saying we will all die because the earth is getting warmer and we should do something about it.
Then you have DiCaprio, and all the media "moving towards it" however they still advertise all things that creates exactly that????
Then you got filtered information about scientists giving false or missinforming about global warming.
Now you have a Coppenhagen summit to fight it but the leading nations in creating it are absolutely against it, so it makes you wonder if this summit is not about letting us do what we want and you weak guys clean our mess.

What is this?

The main focus is to have a nice place to live weather earth is warming or cooling and having a profit based economy simply goes against it. Has anyone talked about chaging current economy??

I think future looks grim because we dont seem to be able to change our greedy and selfish ways.

Putting it simple, as long as love for money persists, hate for anything that stands in money's way will also persist.

It is pretty evident that global warming is occurring. Glaciers are melting. The average global temperature and carbon dioxide levels are proportionate and rising at consistently year over year. What I am not entirely believing are claims that climate change will cause some type of global catastrophe. Sure some towns may get flooded and some species may go extinct. Such is life. Earth will eventually find a new balancing point and we will adapt to it. Personally, I'm in favor of global warming. I don't know about you guys, but I like warm weather in the winter. :-p I just need to move a little further inland... just in case.

I would just like to post this. For those pro global warming please take a look at the other side of the argument. There is endless amounts of data supporting global warming yes. But there is also endless amounts of data refuting climate change. Please read some of the research out there against climate change. There is A LOT OF IT Gain a broader perspective on the subject you are arguing. The worst arguments are those that do not acknowledge the other side.

I am one who does not believe that the current climate change is being caused primarily by humans. With that a few things.

The argument is not weather or not "climate change" exists because it does. The argument is what's causing it and weather or not it will continue and if it does what will happen.

I have heavily researched both sides of this topic and it is very clear the people who have not even seen or acknowledged the other side to the issue.

I'll post a link to a previous post of mine here

So please if you have not read up at least a little on the studies out there showing that man's impact on climate change is not anywhere near what the media and environmentalists claim it to be I encourage you to do so and then form your opinion on the subject. It may have changed it may not have. But I will tell you this if your opinion stays the same and you believe 100% in global warming your argument can only strengthen with knowledge of the refutation.

This is a great topic, and I'm glad you brought it up. However, I tend to label people who are non-believers and skeptics of global warming, as just being naive. It's understandable from the point of view of those skeptics, who may look at 10 years worth of data and see that there is a decline in average temperature in some places. Those are the same people who harass Al Gore, and exclaim that it is merely a political ploy. Just because Al Gore stands for something, doesn't make it part of a hidden agenda, in order for him to make money, as I have heard so often.

But I digress...

Global Warming may not be happening at this moment in time, but Global Climate change is. Whether or not those skeptics mentioned before want to believe it or not, it is happening. I feel that the only reason people don't believe is because they look at data from the last 100 years or so and automatically see a trend that isn't completely upward sloping, thus leading them to believe that global warming is a hoax, right up there with Santa and the Easter Bunny (Sorry for any of you that I just spoiled holidays for :P). BUT, 100 years, 1000 years, 10000 years, is not enough time to realize the true effects of warming. Even though 10000 years may sound like a long time, it is just a TINY sliver of the Earth's history. Therefore, relying on past trends, and making judgments based on them is just inaccurate. If we really want to see what it going on with the Earth, we need to look beyond history, and look at facts.

And I digress again...

In pre-industrial times (before there were machines, cars, etc...), the Earth's atmosphere was comprised of around 270 Parts Per Million (PPM) of Co2. Now, it is on the way to 500 (which some estimate could happen before 2050). The reason for this excess carbon IS humanity. I will hear rebuttals of, oh it's the cows and their damn methane! Well, who do you think raises these cows, and why are there so many of them? Because we have raised our standard of living so much, that people EXPECT to see beef in the stores. If it doesn't look like we are the culprits, then who are? The cows didn't procreate on their own to the magnitude that we have bred them.

The reason why Methane and Co2 are such a problem is because of the "blanket" it leaves over our "warming" Earth. Every ton of Co2 we emit from our cars, factories, etc... doesn't escape the atmosphere. In those pre-industrial times I mentioned earlier, the oceans and trees were able to absorb most of our emissions. Now, we have depleted those resources to the point that they just can't hold anymore. The ocean used to reflect Ultraviolet Rays from the sun back into space, but now we have that blanket over us. So, lot's of the heat and UV rays stay. Every time we cut down trees, we release the CO2 that was stored by them...

I'm not going to continue this novel anymore, but as you can imagine, I have done some pretty serious research on the topic. If anyone is interested, a great book is "Hot, Flat, and Crowded" by Thomas L. Friedman, and it explains (in much more detail) a lot of the things I am talking about, and also proposes some pretty cool solutions. Again, thanks to the OP for opening a great topic of discussion and I look forward to reading some other people's responses as well.

-iWaffle.

I think global warming/climate change is the greatest "scientific" lie ever perpetuated on humankind. I think more news coverage should be dedicated to the "climategate" scandal and I think the glaring lies that fill Al Gore's Oscar-winning documentary need to be understood.

Global warming enthusiasts declared "the debate is over" before it ever began. The truth of the matter is the Earth's climate has constantly changed throughout history. Did you know the Earth was warmer during Medieval times than it is now? The northern oceans were so clear of ice that it enabled the Vikings to migrate west - all the way to Greenland! Greenland was so warm that the Vikings established cities there and even raised cattle! But yet, these historical facts are overlooked when the great Bloviator (Al Gore) talks about the Earth constantly getting warmer and that it "has a fever."

Emissions trading is a total scam. For one, emissions are not measured. The amount of emissions your company produces is determined by a team of bureaucrats that sets the level based upon "scientific studies." There is no device that is attached to buildings to measure the amount of emissions. If you can't measure something, it is worthless.

I'm convinced the global warming hysteria is a power grab by the global governing bodies through the UN where the real motivation is to prop up poor nations with the wealth of rich nations. One of the major stipulations of the Copenhagen discussions is getting the rich countries to give 2% of their GDP to the poor countries. Global socialism if you ask me and I don't like it one bit.

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Originally Posted by iWaffle

This is a great topic, and I'm glad you brought it up. However, I tend to label people who are non-believers and skeptics of global warming, as just being naive.

I am far from naive and neither is Lord Monckton. Read some evidence from the other side...

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/Monckton-Caught%20Green-Handed%20Climategate%20Scandal.pdf