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View Poll Results: Do you feel guilty for everything we stand for?

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  • All the time

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  • Never

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  • It depends

    62 37.80%
  • My moral compass is so f*cked I don't know which way is up

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    No I do not.

    I feel Clay Shirky says it best. His video majorly touches on SOPA and PIPA, but it also touches on a much, much broader subject.

    STOP ACTA/SOPA/PIPA! - Clay Shirky (TED Talk) - YouTube

    I've had a slight twinge about it, then the RIAA toss a lose claim of $75 Trillion for lost profit at Limewire. (Apparently the RIAA settled for the smaller sum of $105 Million after they made themselves look stupid)

    The US Olympics Committee attacks an online community of knitters and crocheters for using the word "Olympics" claiming Trademark infringement, unfair competition and dilution of a famous trademarks. (I don't know how the Greek word "Olympics" can owned and I can't see how the USOC can claim Trademark Infringement of an internaitonal symbol. (Olympic symbols - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)


    The the bunk about Funnyjunk attacking The Oatmeal, demanding compensation for material it stole and their lawyers suing the American Cancer Society and National Wildlife Federation. (Case No. 4:12 cv 3112 DMR, Charles Carreon v. Matthew Inman; IndieGogo Inc.; National Wildlife Federation; American Cancer Society; and Does [Does are as-of-yet-unnamed defendants])




    To finish my post, s2cut also makes the excellent point that we are indeed sharing, the old business model is exactly that, "old".

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    Never,

    They makes millions so why should i give a damn ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reohoie View Post
    Never,

    They makes millions so why should i give a damn ?
    Not everyone is making millions, it depends on what you put in the word "they".

    Of course, majors want to live in the past and not evolve so we shouldn't feel guilty for them. However, some software programmers are not that rich, that's why i try to buy cheap licenses or use open source / free alternatives. AlternativeTo and Bitsdujour are good places for that.
    Last edited by Opt1k4l; June 26th, 2012 at 09:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opt1k4l View Post
    Not everyone is making millions, it depends on what you put in the word "they".

    Of course, majors want to live in the past and not evolve so we shouldn't feel guilty for them. However, some software programmers are not that rich, that's why i try to buy cheap licenses or use open source / free alternatives. AlternativeTo and Bitsdujour are good places for that.
    Still not my problem if its a big corporation or a small one,

    Anyway i pirate it because i can, but if i can not pirate it im surely not going to buy it so nobody loose nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reohoie View Post
    Still not my problem if its a big corporation or a small one,

    Anyway i pirate it because i can, but if i can not pirate it im surely not going to buy it so nobody loose nothing!
    Nobody's "losing" anything per-se, but they're not gaining anything either. You should try to support small software developers if you like their products. I was talking about $2000 software like the Adobe Creative Suite line.
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    I think it is more of sharing, and not stealing. If a guy makes something, he shouldn't just patent and treat the rest of thw world like hungry dogs. Opensource is the way to go in the first place!
    If everyone worked on the principles of opensource sharing then such a question would not arise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paradiseinhell View Post
    I think it is more of sharing, and not stealing. If a guy makes something, he shouldn't just patent and treat the rest of thw world like hungry dogs. Opensource is the way to go in the first place!
    If everyone worked on the principles of opensource sharing then such a question would not arise.
    I totally agree. That's why I'm such a backer of open-source software as well. Not to mention I'm a diehard Android fan;)
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    Sometimes i feel guilty but not always
    I pirate from te people who are rich and no-longer need the money
    However
    I never pirate from:
    Indie game dev/films/music etc, i try to promote all i can (which is not much) I use Vodo alot as a way to support them using P2P network
    Humble bundle, pay them a visit, its a cool project that supports charities
    People i respect, Notch the creator of Minecraft for example

    In everything else i have no morality
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyntaxERROR View Post
    Sometimes i feel guilty but not always
    I pirate from te people who are rich and no-longer need the money
    However
    I never pirate from:
    Indie game dev/films/music etc, i try to promote all i can (which is not much) I use Vodo alot as a way to support them using P2P network
    Humble bundle, pay them a visit, its a cool project that supports charities
    People i respect, Notch the creator of Minecraft for example

    In everything else i have no morality
    Syntax
    That's kind of my philosophy as well. I think software developers that sell millions of licences of expensive titles don't need any more income from filesharing hobbyists. But if there's an indie band I like I usually try to buy their albums.
    the only thing we have to fear is fear itself

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    I think we should first define what is "steal" in that case. Because, when you download a music, a book or a movie the intellectual property on the recognition level remain the same. When you "steal" a book by downloading it, the author remains the same. So I think the property hasn't changed. Ok, that's is not the level of discussion. No, I don't think that using a intellectual production in the "age of reproduction of the works of art" (Walter Benjamin) is a stealing. It's just the way it is. On a marxist point of view I would say that the [intellectual and cultural] means of production have developed and the capitalists want to refrain it from the consumers [and other producers]. So, it's not a matter of law and political position, it's rather a inevitable change.

    "Share or die!"
    Last edited by amazonico; June 26th, 2012 at 06:59 PM.

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