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    No matter how much thought humans put into this we will never, ever know in this life. Whatever "theory" is produced can still be questioned. The question keeps going on and on in a loop. If this universe expands into another universe, then what is beyond that and what's beyond that one, an so on. The truth is, we are tiny organisms that live on the surface of tiny planet and we barely know anything about what's out there.



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    According to modern thought, which is subject to radical change depending on evidence, there is really nothing it expands into. Like the Big Bang was not surrounded by anything. The laws of physics didn't even exist back then. If I may hazard a guess I would say that the laws of physics apply where there is universe stuff, so it's perhaps even impossible to contemplate what is outside the universe.

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    The universe is infinite I think it's just gonna keep expanding and that's it

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    Maybe we are in world within a world. Just like the marbles in MIB

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    I tend to believe that before the universe was what it is there was nothingness so the universe expands into what was nothingness, a void. Almost like an AI sims game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johndingo View Post
    I tend to believe that before the universe was what it is there was nothingness so the universe expands into what was nothingness, a void. Almost like an AI sims game.
    Well i believe there was no ''before the universe'' . I don't think there was nothing and than the universe ''pop-up''. It was there always..and i don't think it's expandable. Like that theory says that it is, my theory says it doesn't :P

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    It's important to remember that the universe is expanding in all three dimensions. This means that it's impossible to actually visualise its expansion in a 3D world like ours. If you imagined the universe and its expansion, as, say, a balloon blowing up, you're only modelling a 2 dimensional universe - the universe is just the surface of the balloon, it has no depth, as the depth of the balloon is the time axis.

    To help you realise how difficult this is to imagine in 3 dimensions: imagine being on the surface of a balloon. If you ran straight forward for a certain length of time, you'd end up back where you started. The same is true for the universe - travelling in the same direction; any direction; will eventually get you back where you started. Difficult to get your head around, isn't it?

    So, the universe isn't really expanding into an empty space, per se, it's just expanding in itself, in all directions.

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    Wait didn't James Gates essentially just say not too long ago that we are living in the matrix. Therefore the universe is expanding in some dudes hard drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal View Post
    It's important to remember that the universe is expanding in all three dimensions. This means that it's impossible to actually visualise its expansion in a 3D world like ours. If you imagined the universe and its expansion, as, say, a balloon blowing up, you're only modelling a 2 dimensional universe - the universe is just the surface of the balloon, it has no depth, as the depth of the balloon is the time axis.

    To help you realise how difficult this is to imagine in 3 dimensions: imagine being on the surface of a balloon. If you ran straight forward for a certain length of time, you'd end up back where you started. The same is true for the universe - travelling in the same direction; any direction; will eventually get you back where you started. Difficult to get your head around, isn't it?

    So, the universe isn't really expanding into an empty space, per se, it's just expanding in itself, in all directions.
    It's actually has the shape of a 4 dimensional doughnut. :) Although your analogy with the balloon was correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azitox View Post
    It's actually has the shape of a 4 dimensional doughnut. :) Although your analogy with the balloon was correct.
    Actually, the shape of the universe is unknown and highly debated. There are three possible models which fit general relativity, the model you mentioned being one of them. As to what the universe is expanding "into" the answer is NOTHING. The universe isn't expanding as into anything, the distance between points within the universe is increasing and hence the distance between galaxies stars etc. The rate at which this is happening is also increasing and strangely increasing at what looks to be a roughly exponential pace. In somewhere around ten times the age of the current universe it will have probably expanded so quickly and so much that no photons from other galaxies will be ever to reach ours and hence the universe will actually appear to be static and unchanging. For more information read "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawkings.

    **EDIT** Just read coal's answer, which sums it up much better than mine.
    Last edited by promqueef; August 5th, 2012 at 10:27 AM.

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