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    Default Joel Tenebaum File-Sharing Case Heard at Court of Appeal

    The long-running and controversial file-sharing case of Joel Tenenbaum was back in court yesterday, this time in Boston before the First Circuit Court of Appeal. The issue at stake is the exact amount Tenenbaum will have to pay following his admittance in 2009 that he illegally shared music on the Internet. It currently stands at $67,500, having been slashed last year from a staggering $675,000. Joel says it should be more like $30.
    Joel Tenenbaum’s case against the RIAA refuses to go away and has already been dragging on since 2005. In 2009, a jury found Tenenbaum guilty of “willful infringement” and awarded damages of $675,000.
    By July 2010, a very different picture began to emerge on the scale of the punishments against the Boston student. Judge Nancy Gertner ruled in Sony BMG Music Entertainment v. Tenenbaum that the awarded damages were excessive and unconstitutional. She promptly reduced the jury-awarded damages by 90%.
    Although the court had reduced the jury’s award from the original $675,000 ($22,500 per infringed work) to $67,500 ($2,250 per infringed work) for the unlawful sharing of 30 songs, the case was far from over. Tenenbaum slammed the new reduced amount branding it “equally as insane” as the previous year’s $675,000 decision. He went on to lodge an appeal and the RIAA, who were equally unhappy with the decision, followed suit.
    Yesterday both parties were back in court, this time in Boston before the First Circuit Court of Appeal. The issue at hand is the exact amount Tenenbaum will be expected to pay for his previously admitted illicit file-sharing.
    The hearing took place before a three-judge panel consisting of Chief Judge Sandra L. Lynch, Judge Juan R. Torruella, and Judge O. Rogeriee Thompson.
    Tenenbaum’s lawyers argued for lower damages (they’re aiming for around $30, $1 per track) on several points, including that the laws applied to the Tenenbaum case were never intended to target non-commercial entities and even if they were, the damages in the case are “unconstitutionally excessive”.
    Lawyers for the RIAA argued that damages awards of this scale are there for their deterrent effect and that they were intended all along for infringers such as Tenenbaum.
    Massachusetts attorney Joel Sage, who was at the hearing yesterday, reports that although there were some positive signs, in his opinion Tenenbaum faces an uphill battle.
    “Chief Judge Lynch clearly had no tolerance for the defense’s contention that ‘no one thought’ the statutory penalties for copyright infringement would ever apply to ‘consumers’,” he wrote.
    “She pointed out that the statute appeared to apply to consumers, eliciting a concession from Tenenbaum’s counsel that statutory copyright penalties were not facial unconstitutional,” he continued. “This left the defense with little more than a half-hearted argument that the jury verdict was improper here because the copyright statute originally contemplated damage calculations by judges.”
    On the other hand, judges Torruella and Thompson were reportedly “more suspicious” of the record labels’ arguments.
    “Judge Torruella asked the labels’ lawyer whether ‘lost sales’ would provide a useful measure of damages, to which he replied that damages should be commensurate with the ‘lost of value of the copyright’. He argued that file-sharing in the aggregate caused enormous economic losses to the labels because it essentially put the music ‘in the public domain’.”
    Sage reasonably questions why Tenenbaum should be then held responsible for the onward actions of file-sharers, a question that was never posed to the RIAA lawyer in court.
    As reported by Boston.com, after yesterday’s hearing Tenenbaum was pleased at the support he’d received from people of his generation who share his passion for the legal issues at stake in this case.
    Noting that one of the circuit judges actually had to ask how file-sharing programs work, Tenenbaum said: “That’s really the crux of the issue here. That was the center of the whole argument: Was Congress even aware of file sharing’ when it passed the deterrence act?”
    A decision in the case is not expected for several months.
    Source:http://torrentfreak.com/joel-tenebau...appeal-110405/

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    Default Re: Joel Tenebaum File-Sharing Case Heard at Court of Appeal

    Thats a shocking case if he refuses to pay they can make him a bankrupt and ruin the young mans future. $67,000 dollars my arse thats execissive. Coprate and legal America out of control

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    Default Re: Joel Tenebaum File-Sharing Case Heard at Court of Appeal

    i find it funny that they say because he uploaded it he has put it in the public domain and the amount is to cover their lost copyright

    by their logic anything that you download from a torrent is public domain and you can use in any way you want (even commercially) and the only person they can ever charge is the orignal uploader, which would put an end to almost every takedown notice, every ISP email, almost every court case and much much more

    if any of us ever gets charged we need to do what his doing and fight it as much as we can over and over again untill the courts realise what they are trying to get away with

    from the sounds of this it looks like he has atleast 2 judges on his side lets all hope he has to pay $1 per song then we have a precedent to go by ;)
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    Its the money they fined him that annoys me. How can they caluculate that sharing a few files cost the music companies that??

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    The cost to the record companies is zero. They will be arguing lost revenue, but that is not the same as cost, and is speculative at best. The fines therefore are punitive.
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    Default Re: Joel Tenebaum File-Sharing Case Heard at Court of Appeal

    easiest way to work out how much they will charge due to loss of sales is the retail price x 10 000

    now going by that same logic i could start a company and write a basic program and retail it for $250 (even tho of course its not worth that price) take out insurance against loss and then have someone upload it as a torrent then either sue whoever downloads it 2.5million each or say my company has lost 2.5 million due to copyright infringement and claim the insurance ;) think the insurance company would go for it?
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    Does anyone know how they managed to just get this one student from Boston....whats the background....it looks like their making an example of him..

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