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Anyone have any experience with newsgroups to provide a comparison. Have been curious about this for a while.
I used newsgroups for a couple weeks. It has great potential to provide most anything you could want, just like a good tracker. A few problems though, IMO. It's hard to figure out. I mean, its not just search, find, download, use. Simply finding exactly what you want and then grabbing it can be difficult. It takes a bit of getting used to in order to get good at actually searching. It costs money, about 15 bucks a month, unless your ISP provides it.
Hey Brenden,
Newsgroups are great. Although it may look daunting to use. Its actually not that hard. I've used newsgroups for two months and now I'm using torrents cause need to save money ;) .
When a file is uploaded to usenet, it is synchronized by several different servers around the world. You'll need a provider first off and this is the main disadvantage of usenet cause you have to pay and its not that cheap either.
The advantages of usenet are the speeds! Since you're paying you can be guaranteed terrific speeds (My line always maxed out with 1.5Mbps). The content! You can find it overwhelming! It has just about everything! Especially useful when you want to download full isos or dvd-r's etc.
Pre times are also great. You will get the bigger files faster on usenet when they're just released than you will with bittorrent.
Usenet is safer to use, although recently some NZB providers were shutdown. It is still the safest way to download.
I recommend Astraweb if you're looking for a provider cause their retention and price is better than what the others offer. There are many providers that offer trials so its best that you try it out before you sign up for a plan.
A good place for nzbs (provides info about the file much like a torrent) is: http://www.nzbs.org/
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Last edited by darkknight7; February 23rd, 2011 at 03:15 PM.
For all new content, newsgroups are the best IMO. I have been usenet since 2004. It is a bit different system but you can learn it in a day or two.
I recommend Astraweb as the provider, they are the best bang for the buck. If you google "Astraweb 11" there should be a promo for unlimited plan for only $11/month for the life of the account. Also, it supports SSL and is 100% anonymous. You can NEVER get sued for downloading on usenet. You can only get in trouble from your ISP if you have data caps. :c) I recommend SABnzbd for the client which is free and supported on all OS's!
Also, ALL new content is on there, at least for scene releases. It just struggles for some odd old items. It will also max out your connection 24/7 even on my 100Mbit seedbox.
Honestly, all you really need is usenet and some top niche trackers like What, TT, Biteme and you'll have all you want. Best of all, no ratio to worry about with usenet.
Top Usenet Search Engines:
(If you can't find a scene release, search by it's filename)
binsearch.net
mysterbin.com
PM me if you have any questions.
Torrents are free and with torrents you have access to much much more content. And the content stays available for longer (better retention). Also, the content is packaged more conveniently by HUMANS (uploaders) with season/movie/tv/music/game packs. And searching is painless compared to how you have to find your content with newsgroups. And the pre-times are better.
With newsgroups, you have to pay to pirate. The advantages you get with newsgroups are: the speeds, you can max out pretty much any connection on newsgroups, but so can any good private tracker unless you have a ridiculous corporate ISP downstream. And of course, the SSL encryption so your ISP doesn't know what you're downloading. But both of those advantages you can also get if you were to use a cheap seedbox when torrenting which is about the same price as newsgroups anyways.
Cliffnotes: I'd rather have JUST TL than a free lifetime membership to giganews.
Last edited by okgg; February 23rd, 2011 at 04:04 PM.
Thanks for your help and info everyone. I am trying out a giganews free trial to see if I like it.
One thing you could do if you want to buffer your ratio on your trackers is to cross seed content from newsgroups on your trackers. Great way to build up your ratio.Originally Posted by Brenden
Registration is closed. Is this an invite system?
So far I'm not super impressed by usenet. These search sites like mysterbin require you to sift through garbage to find the real releases which is not very hard but just annoying and unorganized. I've done a few searches that it has not found anything for as well.
Oh didn't know they stopped registration. Anyways, check your PM mate ;)
I used Usenet exclusively for a period of about three years but I've moved back to torrenting now. Usenet is nice because of the constant high speeds -- you don't have to worry that a rare file you want only has 2 peers including seeders -- and the safety when compared to torrents. However, like you said, you often have to sort through a lot of crap you don't want before you find the right thing. With torrent trackers you can usually tell what's good and what's not by the number of peers and the comments -- there's much more community in the torrent world. And, like okgg said, both the speed and anonymity benefits can be mostly offset if you're in a good private tracker (and obviously enable encryption and use a seedbox).
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