Thread: Why do people hate traders?

Originally Posted by welsh032003

Skitler has a valid point! Itrader should not e demanded or be a requirment for a giveaway! technically it looks like a trade of anyways! As goldcoin said, itrader is a means of showing apriciation for an invite that is given to him or her!

I don't believe he does. Itraders are NOT a requirement. If you don't give an iTrader, they can't get you banned, but at the same time the chances of you getting any iTraders is slim. It's just a respect thing.

Originally Posted by Skitler

I agree to an extent, except iTrader still has material value on these forums. For that reason, it makes any 'giveaway' a trade. An invite for itrader, it's an exchange. check the definition in google, and you'll see.

Yes, it's an exchange, but it's not required. : )

They can get you banned. Like if I gave you FTN and you didn't gimme iTrader, I'd ban you then kill you.

Originally Posted by Skitler

Let me just give you the meaning of trade:



Now let me offer you two scenarios:

1. Someone has an invite, they want to trade it, so someone gives them an invite in return.

2. Someone has an invite, and they want to 'give it away'. All they ask in return is iTrader.

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I don't know about you guys, but both of those fit the description perfectly. If someone gives an invite and asks for an iTrader, they are still trading, because there is an exchange.

How I see it, there's a section for it, if people want to trade let them trade, if people want to 'give away' let them give away...

i don't ask for an itrader back, how about that..?..

the man's got a point. Itrader is inflating. That's why I was saying we needed weighted itrader because when people ga pussytorrents they're doing it for itrader (mostly; and don't really care who it goes to), when someone gives sct he's doing it to give back to the community. But they are equal recognition, 1 itrader.

Don't forget,

not all traders always trade, they also giveaway just like anti-traders. Traders benefit the community in two ways, help trade and also giveaway. But anti-traders, they said "NO TRADERS" but I am sure they also have got help from some traders in their stories. So just be like others and decide who to give by the person! Not what they group they're in!

Invite Trading vs. Giveaways - What’s The Difference?




November 05, 08 by sharky 1,099 views

This is not a pro-trading manifesto. It is a look at the correlation between ‘traders’ and ‘inviters’, and the overall impact on private trackers, their members and torrent forums.

Through the eyes of a private tracker, there’s really no discerning difference between trading an invitation, or by simply giving it away (publicly) to someone who asks - the fact is, either way it’s against tracker rules. While most reputable "Tracker Invite" sites & forums have now opted to go ‘anti-trading’ in recent times, ‘invite giveaways’ are as popular as ever. But is there really that much of a difference between the two?

Trading vs Giveaways - The Same Thing?

Picture this: I go to a tracker invite forum, and post a giveaway offer. Say, for example, a user called “Mister994″ asks me for my offered invite. Now, Mister994 is a very active member on those forums, so I don’t hesitate to give it away to him. Not only that, but similar to me, he also offers giveaways on a consistent basis. Now, two minutes later, I go into one of his GA threads, and ask HIM for an invite that he’s currently offering. Certainly, he gives it to me, not only because I just invited him to one of my private trackers, but because I’m also a valuable active member. Now, wasn’t this entire two-way transaction just a big fat trade, cleverly disguised as two separate giveaways?! In essence, it amounted to the exact same thing. And it happens all the time.
Trading: A Form Of Currency

One negative connotation associated with trading can easily be summed up by the general consensus that it is, indeed, a form of currency. And since trackers are (usually) non-profit for the purpose of free information, invitations to them are not to be sold (aka. traded) in any way, shape or form. Having said that, many trackers turn a blind eye to invites being so freely swapped and handed out, as it’s a form of publicity that generates new members - new members who may eventually donate to the tracker, or become upstanding denizens. Other trackers, such as What.cd and SaveTheCoratee have aggressively taken the stance of keeping their invites out of such torrent forums - regardless of trade or giveaway. These trackers have come to be known as No-movement trackers.

first of all, is not allowed trade with invite

People hate traders because some people give invites free and the rest make trades.. that is bad..

Originally Posted by jack

One negative connotation associated with trading can easily be summed up by the general consensus that it is, indeed, a form of currency.

I think this sums it up and it certainly wasn't like this years ago when I started torrenting.
Giveaways are worse than trades imo. While you can't really trust anyone on the internet, I'd rather trade with someone of high reputation in a trading-community who I know will actually use and be a good member on the tracker I give them than just giveaway to randoms who may cheat, break rules, or worse. I got burned but some **** who sold an invite on eBay I gave away for free. Most members I've invited in giveaways hardly ended up using the trackers anyways. So that's the dilemma, invites are a currency and if you give them away there's always someone looking to make a profit.