Thread: Ratioless a good place to start?

Also, when you start out don't go crazy downloading torrents if you have a slow upload connection. I did this and learned the hard way. Almost every tracker, and this site too, will have some sort of tutorial on how to get your ratio up. Look for them, read them, and utilize those techniques. Remember, "cross seeding" is your friend.

Originally Posted by Mr_Plow

I joined TI recently thinking i wanted invites to BitMe TV, Waffles etc. but after reading through many of the great informative threads on this site i realise i might struggle to maintain a good enough ratio on these sites.

I didnt even know there was such a thing as "ratioless" trackers. Are sites like GFT and PTN comprable to Torrent Leech and other good general trackers?

I should add i'm more than happy to leave torrents seeding for days or weeks after i have finished them but i dont have a seedbox or get great upload speeds and hate the idea that most trackers demand you seed to a certain ratio for every torrent.

Any advice appreciated.

PtN isn't a general/0Day tracker, so it doesn't compare to one. Sites like GFT and even ratio trackers like SCC can't compare to TL in terms of content, but they exist primarily to deliver scene releases as fast as possible after pre, and in that respect, they are very good.

The sites you mentioned: GFT, PtN, BitmeTV and even Waffles, are all sites you need to prove yourself to get into. Most people aren't so lucky as to start out at GFT - you need to join a ratio tracker first, show you can build a good ratio, and then maybe someone will be willing to invite you. Another thing is that a lot of these "high-level" trackers tend to be overrated. People get excited about them because they are hard to get into, but in reality, a combination of TvT and Freshon is actually better than BitmeTV in almost every respect.

Long story short: don't worry so much about joining ratioless trackers. In my experience, they aren't as good as their ratio-laden brethren in terms of content and speeds, and there are plenty of sites out there that are both easy to seed and have good content and speeds. Just aim for sites that fulfill your needs instead of sites that you believe will increase your e-peen. Example: TL instead of SCC, TvT+Freshon over BitmeTV, etc. You'll just enjoy it more because you won't have to constantly think, "is this download going to destroy my ratio?"

Originally Posted by Mr_Plow

thanks for the replies. using Rev TT as an example, they require a ratio of .8, i'm sure i could get that easily with 700mb movies but with things like 7gb xbox games i think i would be no chance going on ratios ive been able to achieve in the past.

s2cuts, ive read about cross seeding, wouldnt it take me months to build up sufficient credit to
comfortably dl 7gb files and not have to worry about ratio watch?

I suppose it depends on your upload speed, but a 20 GB buffer is usually good enough to get started downloading bigger games as long as you seed them back. That will probably only take a few days. You might be surprised how easily they seed back as long as you jump on them as soon they are released. If you're talking about older stuff - it might be easier to deal with a site like Bitgamer where people are more inclined to grab the older stuff and you have a pretty good chance to seed things back. General/0Day sites are mostly good for new stuff released in the past few days, and torrents die pretty quickly at RevTT. You might also consider a tracker like TL or IPT, where even older torrents actually seed back pretty well (not so much on RevTT).