Thread: So... what's the problem with banned countries?

Hi everybody!

Recently a friend of mine had some issue with SCC, he lost his pass and when he enter #support on IRC, the mods refuse to help him because he is from one of the banned countries.

I don't see the problem with that since he have a very good internet connection and a very nice seedbox. So, whats the problem with banned countries? Why do trackers refuse ppl from some places?

When a tracker notice that generaly people of certain country are bad users (goes against the rules, ratio cheat, dupe accounts) they decide to ban the whole ip range of the country.

Originally Posted by Capivara

When a tracker notice that generaly people of certain country are bad users (goes against the rules, ratio cheat, dupe accounts) they decide to ban the whole ip range of the country.

well that may be a generic answer but I am afraid may not be applicable in the above case.

foxfire : can u plz check if it is the case of password recovery or the case of stolen password again with your friend ... !! reply here.. dont PM

Password recovery, the invite was sent to an hotmail email, so when he tried to recover his pass the emails simply don't arrive to his mail box. The worst thing is that the guy who sent the invite to him was banned for sending invite for ppl from banned countries.

I think that it's pretty unfair, and that others big trackers don't have issues with ppl from banned countries, even why, these trackers have some pretty strict rules.

Originally Posted by Capivara

When a tracker notice that generaly people of certain country are bad users (goes against the rules, ratio cheat, dupe accounts) they decide to ban the whole ip range of the country.

+1

Also, slow ISP in that country might be the problem. I am from India. SCC is also banned here. And the internet speed is worst here.

Originally Posted by mayur

+1

Also, slow ISP in that country might be the problem. I am from India. SCC is also banned here. And the internet speed is worst here.

I'm from banned country also and have a slow connection but if I can survive on waffles and what, I can survive anywhere.
Banning a whole country indefinitely because some users misbehaved is like taking out a criminal with a tactical nuke.

PS. I don't have a seedbox.

Originally Posted by LibChamp

...Banning a whole country indefinitely because some users misbehaved is like taking out a criminal with a tactical nuke...

That sentence explain perfectly my point.

well there are two options for the sysops

1 - correct and ethical
2 - easy

in this case both are not essentially same and most sysops tend to follow the established trackers and ban the whole country which is the easy option

there are multiple reasons behind banning countries ,some of which i know are
1- having dynamic ips - the countries where ISP's provide dynamic ips are banned coz dynamic ips increase the scope of trading/cheating 1000 fold
dynamic ips make it almost impossible for trackers to keep track of traders/cheaters who keep on coming back with strength of dynamic ip behind them
2 - countries with slow internet connections - well this one i personally feel is a very unethical reason to ban a country but truth is this is also reason for banning countries. simple logic being people with slow connections most certainly can't keep up with other fast connection users and all time seedbox users and ratiowhores make it impossible for these users to survive - obviously to save his account user has only two options either get a seedbox or cheat , well majority chose to cheat ,thus making a country flagged for cheaters
3 - sysops are also humans ,and they tend to do humanly mistakes - i know of certain cases where staff had banned a country coz simply one user from that country pissed him off

at last the power lies with the sysop and sysop being a human ,its very acceptable that he chooses the easy option
amount of time/irritation one trader/cheater
1 - cheater/trader - ban him
2 - will come to irc - explain him the reason
3 - will plead to let go just one time
4 - keep record of his ip
5 - pass the details to all other trackers

so the staff simply chooses to ban whole country ,thus entirely getting rid all this headache
but it is very unfair to the good users of that country

Country bans are put in place by tracker staff. Some countries are notorious for breeding bad users. The more bad users that infect the tracker means the more hours staff have to put in to get rid of them, also the staff are all volunteers. And they don't get that time back, it's almost wasted since they could have used that time for other more important matters. Thus it's just easier to ban whole IP ranges, country specific.

Originally Posted by don_rocks

1- having dynamic ips - the countries where ISP's provide dynamic ips are banned coz dynamic ips increase the scope of trading/cheating 1000 fold
dynamic ips make it almost impossible for trackers to keep track of traders/cheaters who keep on coming back with strength of dynamic ip behind them

That's ridiculous