Thread: Tracker ban: how does it work?

I have heard trackers ban by IP, or IP range. What is the difference of banning IP and IP range? Is there any? Can someone explain using this IP --> 90.69.13.204? Is the range the "204" part?



A guy I know told me that he's been able to register back into trackers that banned him multiple times by just resetting his router (or modem?) and basically getting a new IP each time before registering. That means he has a dynamic IP, right? Is that true? I mean, it sounds a bit childish to me, is it possible that trackers can't forever-ban users who have a dynamic IP?

Range can be any part, it depends...

Every IP adress is within a subnetwork and the subnetwork is created depending on how many IP's someone needs. That depends on a subnet mask. And depending on how many IP's someone needs range can be from several to millions. But most likely in most cases it will be tens of thousands IP addresses within several subnetworks but that is a pure speculation.

A guy I know told me that he's been able to register back into trackers that banned him multiple times by just resetting his router (or modem?)

It's possible.

That means he has a dynamic IP, right? Is that true?

Yes.

is it possible that trackers can't forever-ban users who have a dynamic IP?

In this case they can't ban you forever but eventually it will happen anyway because of an IP range unless it changes. Also there are other things... Even if a range is different you are still within a subnetwork/s. They can ban them if they are really angry. XD

Imagine you live in a village the ISP made. Each street has its own numbers, for every house. You make a loud party at your house, and the police comes by and says that you are banned from that house, and if you want to continue to have parties, you need to move. So, you move to another house down the street and throw another huge party. The police comes again and tells you to move, but now they say you cannot live anywhere on that street anymore. The first example was a simple ip ban, the second was the range. And if the tracker desires, they can ban the whole village (ie: when they ban whole countries). You can always try and use proxyes or vpns, but the speed will suffer greatly.

Originally Posted by uatdafuc

You can always try and use proxyes or vpns, but the speed will suffer greatly.

From what I know, the use of proxies is not allowed on private trackers. If they catch you using it, you get immediately banned. And I have heard it's quite easy to catch, right?

I don't know what VPNs are, same thing?

I have heard that you could use an SSH Tunnel and that would be more difficult to detect, or no?

public proxyes are detected. You can always make one for yourself. For example if you have a friend in another country, ask him to run a program in the background and you will connect to him and from there to the internet. But remember that anything you download or upload (including websites) will go from you to him and from him to the server and back through him. and yes, vpn = virtual private network, similar to proxy.

I have also heard that trackers can ban you at the "firewall." What does that mean? Same thing as IP ban?

By the way, when a tracker bans you, do they only ban your IP or they could also ban your "computer," so even if you get a new IP, you still can't connect?

They only ban your IP address, but there is another thing called a MAC address.

It's a like a serial number for the network interface device in your computer (your network card). There will never be the same MAC address on two different machines that can connect to the internet, so if a tracker can somehow ban your MAC address, they essentially ban your computer.

I don't know if it's possible or not, but I don't think so. I mean, how would a tracker even get your MAC address.

Edit: As for a "ban at the firewall", I have never heard of such a thing.

Originally Posted by RedMamba

They only ban your IP address, but there is another thing called a MAC address.

It's a like a serial number for the network interface device in your computer (your network card). There will never be the same MAC address on two different machines that can connect to the internet, so if a tracker can somehow ban your MAC address, they essentially ban your computer.

I don't know if it's possible or not, but I don't think so. I mean, how would a tracker even get your MAC address.

Edit: As for a "ban at the firewall", I have never heard of such a thing.

this mac thingie is an urban legend. mac addresses are uniques, same as ip, but, same as ip, you CAN change it. Also, mac addresses are not sent in the ip packet, but the last resort before the server.

lets think about it this way, I want to access google.com, i go through my gateway first (which may be a managed switch or router or even an isp server) and from there, hop to hop, until I reach google. If I access from europe a server in the US i will go through an interconnection exchange and so on. The mac address that the server receives is that of the last hop. Which is definitely NOT yours. so no, you cannot ban based on mac addresses or hardware id or anything of the sorts.

by the way, when trackers ban your IP address do they ban ALL the IP addresses you have ever used to log into the site (home 1, home 2, office, ipad, iphone etc) or the one you used the most (or maybe the one you used to sign up with)?

What about your seedbox IP? I understand that if they ban that, then other users of the trackers using that seedbox, get banned from the tracker as well. So, do they not ban seedbox IPs?