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Old 10-19-2008, 04:05 AM
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Default 3 Strikes & Your Disconnected - New Law for New Zealand

I don't know why, but I often keep thinking that a letter will come through my letterbox one day, warning me about how I've been caught pirating.That's quite a worry. But New Zealanders have got a lot more to worry about. Screw letters. They might have disconnections.

A new law has been proposed, passed & signed that will mean internet connections will be removed from frequent offenders. They say this law was introduced due to 'Internet Piracy'.

Enough words from me, here is the actual law -
Internet service provider must have policy for terminating accounts of repeat infringers
(1) An Internet service provider must adopt and reasonably implement a policy that provides for termination, in appropriate circumstances, of the account with that Internet service provider of a repeat infringer.
(2) In subsection (1), repeat infringer means a person who repeatedly infringes the copyright in a work by using 1 or more of the Internet services of the Internet service provider to do a restricted act without the consent of the copyright owner.

Great. More anti P2P laws in place. Just what we needed. What next?

This is the first place in the world to have a law like this, but this may encourage other countries to follow suit.

Laws should be based on whether the mass majority wants it. But not in this case. In fact, it seems the only people that want it are lobbyists.

The law hasn't been enforced yet, but it might just be a matter of time.

The New Zealand election will take place on 8th of November. A new set of ministers might make this law more susceptible to change. We hope.

Canada, US, New Zealand. Who's gonna be next?

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Damn, they're really cracking down on piracy.
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I am not in support of the NewZeland Piracy lLaw! hell no
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dont look good.....there is going to be a lot of sneakernets soon :-)
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There has been a similar policy with some Australian ISP's recently. This is a page that is displayed after three strikes with Exetel.

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I've received one infringement notice in 6 years of torrenting.
I don't support these laws, but I'm not particularly scared.
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If you download from good sites which are private not open sites than you don't really have to worry to much. Set your security settings, use peerguidan and away you go.

Most of the letters people receive are from the basic (stupid) users that use public sites to get everything. And wreck it for users like ourselves..
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Yep, most of the good private trackers offer SSL browsing. Then if you use a seedbox, you can D/L to your home computer using secure ftp and your pretty much set.
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Yep, most of the good private trackers offer SSL browsing. Then if you use a seedbox, you can D/L to your home computer using secure ftp and your pretty much set.
Yup even more to add. SSL ftw. I also change ports from time to time just to randomize the amount of traffic coming in and out.
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If you download from good sites which are private not open sites than you don't really have to worry to much. Set your security settings, use peerguidan and away you go.

Most of the letters people receive are from the basic (stupid) users that use public sites to get everything. And wreck it for users like ourselves..
One word to counter that: OiNK.

Getting invites to low-level trackers is fairly easy, and if you're willing to put much effort into it then you will also be able to get invited to high-level trackers, because some people sell invites to these trackers on eBay (Some time ago a lot of people were banned from TL in a short period of time for that).
My point is that the RIAA and its lookalikes probably already have accounts on most private trackers (maybe except FTN). OiNK is a good proof because it wasn't a low-level tracker.

Using a seedbox is indeed a good idea if you can afford it, but if you're worried about these issues, better get a seedbox somewhere in Russia or some other country that doesn't readily cooperate with US agencies.

Said that, I believe that the media companies are big idiots who can't see anything in the long run. They fail to realize that the net evolves all the time. Many years ago there was Napster. They shut it down, so they got Kazaa which was more decentralized and less easy to shut down. They managed to get a court order against Kazaa but couldn't shut it down completely because most users were actually using Kazaa Lite instead of the official client (eventually most people left the network because it got infested with viruses). They did the same with eDonkey but again the network still thrives because most people use eMule instead of the official client, and there are thousands of servers operated by thousands of independent people and there is no-longer a single company that you can sue. The same thing also happened with BitTorrent - almost noone used the official client (though today it's identical to μTorrent so this is no longer true) and noone uses the official trackers.
And now they begin to sue users of the network - So I guess it's just a matter of time until we see new P2P networks, that proxy all transfers so you don't know the IP of the senders.
The only chance the media companies have is to stop tilting at windmills and start to actually LISTEN to their customers.
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